Masaki Hatsui Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hi everyone, I was looking at the Schoeps website and figured out there's this new (?) inline filter on the list. Seems like a CUT1 alternative, smaller fixed frequency inline hipass filter: http://www.schoeps.de/en/products/cut60/overview Has anyone already tried this? Masaki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwil Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hi Masaki, Yes I have one and use it every time I use my ms stereo schoeps ccm rig on the ccm8 channel as this mic is more sensitive to 'handling' noise. It does a great job of cutting out (attenuating) the lower frequencies. As the filter is a steeper than that of my mixer (633) it does a better job of tempering lower frequency handling noise. It has been available for quite a few years. I love it, it's expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masaki Hatsui Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 I'm not sure if you're talking about the same accessories as this one cannot connect to CCM. Are-you talking about LC60 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 might be talking about the LC 60 U (the XLR version)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 I use cut60's every day. they are great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 They're great. Also increases the signal by 5dB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwil Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Yes, I am talking about the xlr version. Sorry i miss read original post. Yes, LC 60 U! Sorry of no help to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masaki Hatsui Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 18 hours ago, Soundwil said: Yes, I am talking about the xlr version. Sorry i miss read original post. Yes, LC 60 U! Sorry of no help to you. No problem Mr Soundwil ! Seems like an item for the next purchase (even though I have a CUT1...). Any cons to mention? RFI weakness?? Masaki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwil Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 9 hours ago, Masaki Hatsui said: No problem Mr Soundwil ! Seems like an item for the next purchase (even though I have a CUT1...). Any cons to mention? RFI weakness?? Masaki No cons apart from length (physical size). It's always been at bag/cart end so RFI has never been an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 No cons apart from length (physical size). It's always been at bag/cart end so RFI has never been an issue. Ok, what are we talking about now? The XLR version or the screw-on thingy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Constantin said: Ok, what are we talking about now? The XLR version or the screw-on thingy? if I got this right, the original question was about the short screw-in-between filter (CUT 60) and Soundwil gave his opinion about the XLR version (LC 60 U). specs on both:http://www.schoeps.de/en/products/lc/specshttp://www.schoeps.de/en/products/cut60/specs and the curves (afaik the CUT 60 is the same as the CUT 1 on default settings)Schoeps_Manual_CUT-090301_1388735774.pdfSchoeps-Manual_LC_03-2009.pdf so the CUT 60 is 24dB per octave (not sure if 3rd order or 4th) and before the mic-preamp and the LC 60 U is 18dB per octave (3rd order) and after mic-preamp (but can be used with any mics). probably both do a very nice haven't used either of them (but planning to buy one, so curious about real world experience too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 It doesn't happen often but having the cut filter before the amplifier body can really save a recording in a challenging environment. I recorded an interview in a school recently where we had to use a science lab that was close to some large mechanical works. The kind of low frequency rumble you can feel. I did not own a cut 1 at the time and I was pretty much ready to tell the producer the sound would be unusable if we didn't change rooms when I remembered there was another mixer on the shoot that day who did have a cut1 on his Schoeps. I installed his cut1 and immediately the sound went from horrendous rumble-fest to acceptable (certainly workable for post at least). Before the cut1 flew in you could hear the rumble kind of like overdriving the mic. Hard to describe. That is a rare case but it will help you everyday with boom handling, wind, city ambience, planes. Etc. After that shoot I ordered a CUT60 immediately. This after years of using my Schoeps with no filter and being pretty much happy with it and the roll off at the mixer. The CUT60 is great.. cheaper than the CUT1, smaller, lighter, no roll-off wheel to bump. PS.. you can leave the CUT60 installed and still fit the whole mic inside the small Schoeps wood case. This is an important detail if you ask me...; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 if I got this right, the original question was about the short screw-in-between filter (CUT 60) and Soundwil gave his opinion about the XLR version (LC 60 U). Yes, I got that. But then Masaki asked another question, presumably about the Cut60, and Soundwil apparently answered about the LC 60, again. It's important now in this topic, to clearly state what you are talking about, especially as the question is pertinent to both products, and it's interesting to hear about both of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwil Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 15 hours ago, Constantin said: Yes, I got that. But then Masaki asked another question, presumably about the Cut60, and Soundwil apparently answered about the LC 60, again. It's important now in this topic, to clearly state what you are talking about, especially as the question is pertinent to both products, and it's interesting to hear about both of them Yep, agreed. Sorry about the confusion in the first place. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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