jrd456 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 It's time to donate to the Green Party and Jill Stein for the Presidential election recount.Go to Green Party website. J. Dehr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 From what I have read...they apparently have to have the recount done under federal law in 35 days... That's Dec. 13th... They are struggling to get going in Wisconsin, have not even begun in Michigan or Penn... Slim to no chance on completing all this... Started too late.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Not too late---think what it may be like for the next 30 years [supreme court] 42 minutes ago, afewmoreyears said: From what I have read...they apparently have to have the recount done under federal law in 35 days... That's Dec. 13th... They are struggling to get going in Wisconsin, have not even begun in Michigan or Penn... Slim to no chance on completing all this... Started too late.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 I'm not questioning the outcome, need or potential gains or losses... just the time left for this procedure to run it's course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhharvest Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 I think it's extremely unlikely anything will be found with a recount. If there are any disparities, it will be in the counties with only electronic voting with no paper trail to check. https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_state "Hey, let's have these black boxes provided by individual private suppliers, that no one is allowed to check or audit, that tally up people's votes. What a great idea!" :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard-NYNY Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 i am not advocating yes or no to this recount initiatve, but will gladly stir up the pot. http://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/the-trouble-with-recounts-in-the-name-of-hacking.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 The point of donating to the recount is to show the size of resistance. It is time to stand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/25/election-recount-outcome-jill-stein We as Americans have to accept the next 8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Rather than attempting to continue the circus, the money would be much better spent feeding the hungry in our country -- but that would show we cared more about people than politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 "It can't happen here" 8 minutes ago, RadoStefanov said: Show your resistance where it makes a difference... The DNC... The problem is the DNC doesn't get the zeitgeist. very few liked Hillary----old politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard-NYNY Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 it looks like the resistance doesn't get the zeitgeist: trump practically ran the table and continued that through the general election, and clinton, once again, gets skewered by someone who pops up out of the blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Yea,I don't think people realize how dangerous Trump with congress actually is----"It can't happen here" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Read "It can't happen here" by Sinclair Lewis---chilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard-NYNY Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 2 hours ago, jrd456 said: Yea,I don't think people realize how dangerous Trump with congress actually is----"It can't happen here" what, specifically, is going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 8 hours ago, RadoStefanov said: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/25/election-recount-outcome-jill-stein We as Americans have to accept the next 8 years. uh, Rado...., there will be another presidential election in 2020, 4 years from now. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, old school said: uh, Rado...., there will be another presidential election in 2020, 4 years from now. CrewC I doubt the DNC can recover by the next election "Debbie wasserman Shultz nomination in 4 years 🙂" and judging by the last 2 weeks it looks like the dems have not learned a single lesson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, RadoStefanov said: I doubt the DNC can recover by the next election "Debbie wasserman Shultz nomination in 4 years 🙂" and judging by the last 2 weeks it looks like the dems have not learned a single lesson... So true, and I don't think they are preparing for the tidal wave to come. Proletariat lives matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 We shall see. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 14 hours ago, RadoStefanov said: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/25/election-recount-outcome-jill-stein We as Americans have to accept the next 8 years. Jesus God, don't assume this idiot is going to get re-elected. Let's hope for "only" four years of madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhharvest Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 15 hours ago, RadoStefanov said: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/25/election-recount-outcome-jill-stein We as Americans have to accept the next 8 years. Which is precisely the attitude that's got you in the pickle you are in. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38114558 I try not to have opinions about the American political system. But looking at it from the outside it seems bonkers to me. In Finland if an election was as close as the American elections always are, there would be a re-vote. If no candidate on the list gets more than 50% of the popular vote, there is a re-vote. But even beyond that the president doesn't have anywhere near the power that the US president has - it seems to me completely alien to have any one person dictate national policy that strongly. Also, why on earth do you guys have just two political parties? In Finland there hasn't been a dominant political party for as long as I remember, there is always a coalition government these days because people just have different opinions and you need different parties representing those opinions. And why are there blue states and red states - why do people vote who their parents voted for? Why are the elections about personalities, rather than issues? All of it just boggles my mind. Sorry, I'll get my coat. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Boggles any intelligent mind. But the election is only the surface of the real issues that nobody cares to address. A vote recount or Clinton victory won't cure the systemic corruption. Both political party's keep the masses focused on semi-irrelevant issues to mask the deeper, darker ones. While I will concede that Trump's win heralds an era of mind-boggling system abuse and corruption. Maybe, just maybe though, it will become so obvious that real, positive change can be augmented. But nothing will change until the "public servants" work for the people instead of self-interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard-NYNY Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 10 hours ago, Dutch said: While I will concede that Trump's win heralds an era of mind-boggling system abuse and corruption what, specifically, is going to happen in the realm of mind boggling system abuse and corruption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Gerard-NYNY said: what, specifically, is going to happen in the realm of mind boggling system abuse and corruption? Gerard, I see you're from NYC so I expect things will continue on as usual for your area (http://nypost.com/2016/08/25/sheldon-silver-avoids-jail-for-at-least-another-year/ ). Although there might be a slight increase in police brutality against those who sell single cigarettes on the street corner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfXqYwyzQpM It's not my intention to be a smart-ass but I have nothing but prayers for people who spout hate as our illustrious leader so often exhibited on the campaign trail. As far as the corruption issue, I can't tell you how it will occur as my mind doesn't think like a dishonest persons does. I'm wired to be positive, compassionate, and enjoy helping others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Seeing as it's pantomime season I thought a documentary reference to 'Aladdin' might be informative: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard-NYNY Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Dutch said: Gerard, I see you're from NYC so I expect things will continue on as usual for your area (http://nypost.com/2016/08/25/sheldon-silver-avoids-jail-for-at-least-another-year/ ). Although there might be a slight increase in police brutality against those who sell single cigarettes on the street corner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfXqYwyzQpM Silver, the long serving State Assembly Speaker, was a Democrat and the Garner incident happened under the watch of Socialist Progressive Liberal Democrat Mayor de Blasio, who campaigned vigorously about about police abuse of power issues and promised change in policing procedures. I do not see a connection from these instances that point to the Republican President Elect that indicate his involvement in corruption and abuse of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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