RPSharman Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think if I were given the responsibility of the picture master and sound master, I'd want a lot more money!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Thinking strictly bag work. On large productions like commercials or fiction it's obviously totally unnecessary ; there's probably a DIT on set. And usually on those types of productions the post team is a lot more knowledgeable. Where it's be really useful is on small scale ENG productions where you, the camera person and maybe another person is the only team. Usually those kinds of productions have very fast turnarounds and very newbie post team. Very newbie everything, except the sound and camera people... I totally get that it's a niche market, but still. A feature, or even add-in on a mixer. The PIX is great but not handy in a bag. And the union thing, well I'm totally oblivious there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 The trend has been to make the camera be the recorder of both pix and sound in a "one piece/single system" rig, over many years now, this being considered the most flexible arrangement, with good reason. A camera can be made to be a decent if basic audio recorder (Arri, Sony F55) and can be fed wireless audio by a number of pretty sophisticated systems these days. Picture recording "off-camera" still requires a cable, a pretty stiff and uncooperative cable at that. As I said, this has worked for very specific sorts of setups (esp old-school multicam video), but is probably too inflexible, too hassleous and too slow for what current directors expect, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilemike Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just imagine how much more stuff they could blame the soundies for if we recorded the picture too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 2:30 PM, Philip Perkins said: I want to see what comes next in the small-but-powerful bag recorder zone. What comes after 633/Nomad/RX4+? Will F8 be improved enough to become the new standard? Will a Maxx v2 be the new deal? Bring it, folks! Meanwhile--let's hear from someone who has really tortured an F8, like weather, vibration, drops, dust, sweat etc etc and lived to tell the tale! I strongly doubt Sound Devices / Zaxcom / Sonosax will release an 8 XLR input recorder in anywhere near the F8 price point! Instead it is much more likely a 633 mk2 ("644"??) or similar will be announced, and it will be at around the price of a 633 (or even higher). What I believe/hope however is that this year Tascam will release their response to Zoom's F4/F8 attack.... (& soon! Otherwise I will just given in and buy a Zoom F4, or maybe an F8) On 1/15/2017 at 6:03 AM, daniel said: Mono XLR recorder (like DR-10x) with p48 power (a stereo line I/P option would be 'gravy'). Saramonic SR-VRM1 has phantom power: https://www.amazon.com/Saramonic-SR-VRM1-Digital-Recorder-Microphones/dp/B01M6V955P/ Unfortunately it lacks the safety track recording feature of the Tascam DR10X. I want to get one of these, but it is tricky, as neither has both of the features I want! (phantom power + safety track recording) On 1/15/2017 at 8:21 AM, Tom Visser said: 3 channel mixer, 2 channel recorder with sunlight visible meters. Soooo.... like a Sound Devices 552? But with two less inputs. On 1/16/2017 at 2:48 AM, axel said: - CPU upgrade for my brain: 8 core minimum @ 5,2 Ghz, suggested layout: core 1-4 for monitoring up to 12 iso tracks simultaneously as if listening in mono mode; alternativly only 8 ISOs, but with frameline clear™ boom drop-in and reflection control on 2 HD monitors core 5 for proper mixing 10+ isos with anticipation of erroneous cues and automatic overlap detector core 6 for notes & memory (permanentely updating and keeping in mind all adjustements necessary for the next take, next setup, next scene and day after tomorrow) core 7 for proper multi level communication including automatic timeslot detector for talking to director, 1st AD, DOP and main cast core 8 reserved for humour and friendliness on set Hahaha! Best suggestion yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I don't think the hardware will change so much. I would like to see big updates in "firmware land" for Ambisonic as Suso Ramallo posted. - Audio Ltd 1010 Plug-on Transmitter & miniTX Transmitter - Audio Ltd 1010 Dual Channel Receiver (not only in slot-in chassis) - Zaxcom DEVA 24 must hit the market - Sound Devices 8 Series Line, starting with a small track recorder (4 Mic/Line, 4 AES3/42, 8 Track) with embedded ACN Network - Sennheiser G4 Digital Line - DPA Figure 8 capsule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, IronFilm said: Soooo.... like a Sound Devices 552? But with two less inputs. .. and about a quarter the size/weight ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacefivesound Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Rack mountable 688, or something newer, that uses the existing and wonderful CL12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Immoral Mr Teas Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 hours ago, VAS said: - DPA Figure 8 capsule Personally I was upset when B&K then DPA decided to branch out beyond omni ... after all, who else has given us such a fine and varied range of omni response? Pressure gradient? Screw up the phase response? Bah! Jez x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 hours ago, chrismedr said: .. and about a quarter the size/weight ; ) Also sunlight visible metering, would sort of like them to go back to the hi powered LEDs rather than LCD. I figure with only 3 inputs, you don't need a fancy LCD menu, just good old fashioned LCR switches, variable LCF, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 "Also sunlight visible metering" THAT, for everything in the bag !!!! 52 minutes ago, jacefivesound said: Rack mountable 688, or something newer, that uses the existing and wonderful CL12 just a plate would do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacefivesound Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Yes, i suppose i mean a 688 "cart" version that can still use the CL12 and could take up a rack space, giving the unit much more space to utilize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Wasserman Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 A version of the Sound Devices CL-9 with P&G faders, or a software update/hardware interface to allow the 788T to be used with the CL-12... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 It's been mentioned before, but a mini-6 fader etc CL12 usable by the 633 would probably sell very well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Karlsson Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Auto Mix for the 633. Lectrosonics - please make it possible to pick the 3 block range with the wide band series, such as 19, 20, 21 / 20, 21, 22 (A-2, B-2?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire soundie Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 More integration with smartphones. I want to mirror my mixer's display on my smartphone, wirelessly. I also want the ability to transfer audio files, wirelessly, to my smartphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/18/2017 at 1:52 AM, chrismedr said: .. and about a quarter the size/weight ; ) Ah yes, that is easily what I like the least about my 552! Especially once paired with my Tascam DR680 (& their respective external batteries) I've then ended up with a beasty bag :-/ Rather go slimmer! This reminds me also, would be fantastic if Sound Devices (or if another company did that) brought back the Sound Devices MM-2! As that paired with any of the many cheap consumer XLR portable recorders on the market now would be a great starting points for a newbie / student. As would be very basic but "cheap", yet have great pre amps. Johnny just gave me another thought.... auto mix capabilities please in the Zoom F4 & F8, plus also in Tascam's next recorder as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonG Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 CL-wifi to be able to be used hard lined from the lightning port of your iDevice to a usb port on the 788. +1 for what @Johnny Karlsson said re A-2 B-2 wideband SMQVs Sound Devices 716 or 724 Affordable HD video tx/rx sets NOT in 2.4/5gHz with good range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGraham045 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I would love a Smart slate with Zaxnet 8030 would be awesome Maxx with 8 AES and a RX4/6/8 with Zaxnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Sound Devices 716 or 724 As in 16 or 24 inputs, right? Because it sounds smaller... if yes, I agree! And have mentioned it here many times. Also I am hoping for a bigger CL-9 or CL-12, or whatever any other company might offer. By bigger I don't mean more faders, but generally more buttons and pots. Especially pots. Like on the CL-9 for EQ we have frequency, Q, and gain. Why not have one pot for each control? Solo buttons AND mute buttons... etc. I don't like to remember my cassette player/recorder, but I liked its big latch-on buttons. You know when they'vr engaged. Something like that on a controller would be awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 20 hours ago, Johnny Karlsson said: Auto Mix for the 633. Lectrosonics - please make it possible to pick the 3 block range with the wide band series, such as 19, 20, 21 / 20, 21, 22 (A-2, B-2?) Is it possible to put 'Auto Mix' or 'Mix Assist' into 633? I Like the idea of a mini-6 fader (CL?) too. Maybe the 2 combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 48 minutes ago, daniel said: Is it possible to put 'Auto Mix' or 'Mix Assist' into 633? I Like the idea of a mini-6 fader (CL?) too. Maybe the 2 combined. So far they say no MA or AM, not enough DSP, ditto with 664. But there is a lot of interest in having this feature in 633......so.....a retrofit? SD has never done that--a hardware upgrade (except for hard disks), they usually come out with a new model. But who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankaudio Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I would like Lectrosonics to make a stereo transmitter for camera hop, same size or smaller than an SRCSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I'd like a VOG system that sounds really loud to obnoxious directors' ears, but is in fact at a very gentle volume for the rest of the crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonG Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 7 hours ago, Constantin said: As in 16 or 24 inputs, right? Because it sounds smaller... if yes, I agree! And have mentioned it here many times. Yes as in 16 or 24 inputs. If they feel obliged to make a new control surface for these devices I wouldn't hate that either. But I really like the layout of the CL-9 vs the CL-12. I absolutely hate the rec buttons on the CL-12 (the size and position), and the fact that the user buttons which need to be used on anything but the 688 don't actually activate the TB mic, just toggle the switch, which means that if you are in PFL mode, you change the output routing I much prefer the purpose built CL-9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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