OnTheSoundSideOfLife Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Hey, I just signed up and am happy to be part of this community. I'm looking for a windshield, mainly for field recording with my Mkh 8050/30 combo. The problem is that I'm really picky with sound quality.. The windscreen I'm looking for should be as transparent as possible. Meaning as little sound or pickup pattern coloration as possible. I actually care less about the wind protection itself as I'll never be recording in heavy conditions (for now). I've done some recordings with a regular Rycote Windshield (WS2 or WS4 can't remember) and also with a probably less known Sennheiser MZW 60-1 in the same location. Just between those two I felt the Sennheiser one was way more natural. The Rycote screen sounded as if someone has put an eq or multibandcompressor on it. I've read some good things about Cinela and am almost sold to them (the Pianissimo), but unfortunately I had no chance to do some test recordings. The first time I went out with my M/S rig, I only used foam on each mic and the results were great, but even very light wind started to interrupt my recordings and I had to sort out a lot of stuff in post. I wish I could achieve that same quality and clarity with a windshield. As I'm doing location sound aswell, it would be great if I could modify the windshield for my Mkh 8060, but it's not a must. (Rycote is definitley more flexible) Here are a few Cinela solutions I've found or that could probably be custom made: Cinela Pianissimo (8050/30, 8060 and probably also 8050/8040/30 Double M/S mounts available) Cinela Zephyx (8050/30, 8050 and maybe even 8060 (MZL) mounts, not ideal size, but should be possible. I've seen an Mkh 50/30 prototype on their website. But honestly the Piani size is fine and I don't need anything smaller) Cinela Leonard (I'm curios if the 8050/30 combo would fit into the Leonard Ball, similiar to the Schoeps M/S version. Is this the same 3D fabric used with the Piani? Has anyone compared the sound between Pianissimo and the Leonard Ball or used both outside? I feel this could be a small, light and cheap solution for mild wind conditions) Here are a few Rycote solutions I've found: Rycote Stereo Windshield WS AF MS Kit (very versatile, I could use this for 8050/30, 8060/30, 8050 single, 8060 single, 8050/8040/30 double ms, maybe the sound is better with this one vs the WS2?) Rycote Stereo Windshield WS AE MS Kit (same thing, but could transform this into the ORTF Version, 8060 only with MZL Connbox) Rycote Cyclone Windshield Kit - Medium (I think you can fit everything into this windshield aswell, I already have the back to back clips from Rycote. How does it sound compared to old Rycote Windshields and Cinela?) Any other brands you guys can recommend? I don't really care about the price. My approach is "buy good gear slow" and I would rather save up money for a year than buy a windshield that I hate. If any of you have some private recordings comparing Rycote and Cinela Windshields, I would love to hear them. I've already listened to every file and watched every video that is available to the public. Also what about foames and softies? Anything out there that fits my M/S rig and is wind protecting enough? Tl;dr: The most transparent windshield for my 8050/30 rig, I don't care about the windprotection that much, it should be better than some simple foam and keep the clarity of my mics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Very personal, I would try them out myself. I personally find the Osix perfect concerning rumble noise, the Rycote is extremely robust, especially since they have introduced the Lyra. Cinela is the Mercedes Benz, but it needs careful handling and a quiet boom operator hand. I would also try the Rode Blimp which is very cheap. It has enough space inside for an MS combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Pianissimo. Durable. Versatile work's with many mics great all around. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheSoundSideOfLife Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Anywhere I can try out cinela stuff in Germany besides Ambient and Kortwich? (too far away) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanovich Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Doing a search would be good. Lots of going back and forth about this. Like its been said, very personal. I've owned the WS4 for my schoeps MS setup for a long time. Recently I bought a Zephyx to replace it and all I can say is WOW! Transparent, reduces handling noise, for me its a much better system. I also own the Piano and again, it is amazing. Much easier to boom with and my boom ops love it for that reason. They are a bit more fragile but still very hearty. They always do the job. The basket themselves are floated which makes them move around and absorb any mechanical/wind noise without making sounds. It throws people off but man they work great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 ...and if we add "extreme wind protection" to the equation, any of you dear people here had the opportunity to compare several models ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Boomboom said: ...and if we add "extreme wind protection" to the equation, any of you dear poeple here had the opportunity to compare several models ? I tried various models of Rycote and Cinela over the years. For really really extreme wind I think a large basket (like a long stereo basket) with a fairly small mic inside, such as the 4017B, combined with the windsock and a fur, is a pretty wind resistant rig. It also sounds somehwat muffled compared to other systems. You will also need to spend some time to close off absolutely every single opening, but then it’ll work very well. Had this rig mounted outside on a car doing about 60 mph and it was no problem. The best compromise of wind resistance, sound quality, and handling, is in my mind without a doubt a Cinela Piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpro Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 Very happy with my Leonard MS rig for light wind, very nice and easy to handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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