jonathan chiles Posted May 15, 2017 Report Posted May 15, 2017 Just worked with one of these last week and pleasantly surprised that this has a 5 pin Lemo in and seems to hold time code surprisingly well! Had no chance to explore the audio section but this seems to be a solid step up from the Dragon and from the Alexa mini for that matter. Quote
John Blankenship Posted May 15, 2017 Report Posted May 15, 2017 On the newer Reds I'm familiar with, the inputs depend upon which I/O module (if any) they have. For instance, the Pro I/O module sports a 5-pin Lemo for time code and XLRs for audio. They also have several other optional I/O modules with different connections. I think natively the newer Reds still use a 4-pin 00 Lemo and the audio input is now an unbalanced 3-pin mini-phone jack. Someone please speak up if the above isn't totally correct. This is based upon limited knowledge and only a tad of experience with the newest Reds. Worth noting is that I encountered an egregious problem -- possibly a ground loop issue -- when I powered an RX200 from an attached P-Tap on one of the newest Reds. Switching to internal batteries in the RX200 solved the issue, but I've not encountered such a problem with any other camera -- even the earlier Reds. Quote
Sound Grab Posted May 15, 2017 Report Posted May 15, 2017 On the newer Reds I'm familiar with, the inputs depend upon which I/O module (if any) they have. For instance, the Pro I/O module sports a 5-pin Lemo for time code and XLRs for audio. They also have several other optional I/O modules with different connections. I think natively the newer Reds still use a 4-pin 00 Lemo and the audio input is now an unbalanced 3-pin mini-phone jack. Someone please speak up if the above isn't totally correct. This is based upon limited knowledge and only a tad of experience with the newest Reds. Worth noting is that I encountered an egregious problem -- possibly a ground loop issue -- when I powered an RX200 from an attached P-Tap on one of the newest Reds. Switching to internal batteries in the RX200 solved the issue, but I've not encountered such a problem with any other camera -- even the earlier Reds. You're correct. With the latest iterations of the last few models it has only been the sensor that gets upgraded. The body stays the same and the modules are the ones that give us the different i/o. The 3.5mm is menu switchable for balanced/unbalanced connections. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
John Blankenship Posted May 15, 2017 Report Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Flipstar said: You're correct. With the latest iterations of the last few models it has only been the sensor that gets upgraded. The body stays the same and the modules are the ones that give us the different i/o. The 3.5mm is menu switchable for balanced/unbalanced connections. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk On the newest Red how can it be balanced if you're inputting two channels? The Epic has the two separate audio jacks (on either side of the front), but the newer Weapon series has just a single TRS mini jack (now on the rear) accommodating both channels. Quote
Sound Grab Posted May 15, 2017 Report Posted May 15, 2017 On the newest Red how can it be balanced if you're inputting two channels? The Epic has the two separate audio jacks (on either side of the front), but the newer Weapon series has just a single TRS mini jack (now on the rear) accommodating both channels. You're right. I incorrectly referenced the epic body. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Wandering Ear Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 So far I've had mixed results trying to feed reference audio to the helium. Sometimes I can't get any signal and just lots of noise, sometimes I can get signal covered with noise, and I have gotten it to work just fine. Also seems like there are a few bugs in the firmware, like recently I found the headphone out to be muted until I change the volume, so I have to turn the volume up and back down to the level I wanted to get the return feed to work. What are folks using to feed audio to a helium? With what kind of results? Quote
mikewest Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Plug, play and hope - just like so many Reds! mike Quote
Patrick Tresch Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 On 14/07/2017 at 9:07 AM, mikewest said: Plug, play and hope - just like so many Reds! mike Read the manual. No need for hope. Quote
Philip Perkins Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 So far the same G2s I've used with REDs since the RED ONE....seem to work well enough.... Quote
Michael Manzke Posted July 20, 2017 Report Posted July 20, 2017 Only worked once with it. Tried to send a scratch track which looked good on the meters and sounded good on the headphone-out. But the sound that was recorded sounded awful, like it had a limiter that's been hit way too hard, even though it always sounded nice during monitoring. Weird experience... Quote
ErisHong Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 From what I've seen, a lot comes down to the overall camera setup rather than the sensor alone. Good power management, keeping the fan profile reasonable when possible, and making sure everything is balanced on the rig can make a noticeable difference during longer shoots. Curious to hear how others have found it in real-world use. Quote
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