Trey LaCroix Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Hey everybody! Love my 688/cl12 but hate having to adjust the tiny trim knob on the mixer instead of the board. I can do it but it’s not easy to ride on a really dynamic scene. Wondering if anyone has come up with a DIY way to put on a bigger knob or if there are other solutions that I haven’t thought of yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Not really, just join the club of annoyed CL-12 critics. Sound Devices thinks it’s fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 You'll get used to it... Welcome to the club... Why the trim is not on the CL-12 I'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 NopeDotCom. Seems hardly an issue once it becomes second nature (like all systems do after awhile). CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Even though I may sound older now than I am, but I want my technology to adjust to me not vice versa. Well, obviously that’s not really true, but the point if the CL-12 and all other mixer controllers obviously is to bring us back the analog mixer experience. And that’s what I want. The more of a real mixer I have, the happier I am. That’s why I really like the new Aaton Cantaress controller, even though I just can’t justify its cost at the moment (or that of the prerequisite Cantar X3). The day I accept the trims on the 688 I might as well accept the on-boards fader dials. Why get the fader board at all? Eventually I‘ll get used to it. Or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Hopefully Sound Devices doesn’t make the same mistake again. Seems to me the evolution of the 6-series wasn’t exactly planned in advance but rather a sometimes hurried, quick stomp-the-Nomad, what-else-can-we-add to keep them happy and not have to make a new 7-series kind of affair. That said, I love my 633. Perfect ENG/doc mixer and recorder. Might be the best of the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 16 hours ago, Constantin said: Even though I may sound older now than I am, but I want my technology to adjust to me not vice versa. Well, obviously that’s not really true, but the point if the CL-12 and all other mixer controllers obviously is to bring us back the analog mixer experience. And that’s what I want. The more of a real mixer I have, the happier I am. That’s why I really like the new Aaton Cantaress controller, even though I just can’t justify its cost at the moment (or that of the prerequisite Cantar X3). The day I accept the trims on the 688 I might as well accept the on-boards fader dials. Why get the fader board at all? Eventually I‘ll get used to it. Or not Not sure how technology adjusts to an individual. Seems like all things are built with fixed limitations, no? I know it's an age old tradition to bitch about the gear that manufactures build for the market but can you imagine the cost per unit if we could order custom builds from the vendors? CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, old school said: Not sure how technology adjusts to an individual. Seems like all things are built with fixed limitations, no? I know it's an age old tradition to bitch about the gear that manufactures build for the market but can you imagine the cost per unit if we could order custom builds from the vendors? CrewC I actually tried this a few times, when I was younger and stupider. Did not end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 3 hours ago, old school said: Not sure how technology adjusts to an individual. Seems like all things are built with fixed limitations, no? I know it's an age old tradition to bitch about the gear that manufactures build for the market but can you imagine the cost per unit if we could order custom builds from the vendors? CrewC Well, the people who build the technology can adjust it. When I said „adjust it to me“, I didn’t mean that literally. I don’t want gear to adjust to me personally. I just don’t want to change an important part of my workflow, such as easy access to trim pot. If they come up with a good idea, that makes sense in terms of workflow, I‘m all for it. As an example I‘ll mention Cantar, where on its surface you can have fader 1 control the mix contribution of input one and with fader 2 you can control the gain of input 1 (you can also choose to not do this). To me that’s a clever way of improving the workflow, while leaving it to me if I actually want it. Sound Decices otoh force me to adopt their workflow, which in the case of the trim pots can only have been a total mental blackout on their part. At least if I could change the function of those rotary dials... Very generally speaking I want my control surface to be as close to an analog console as possible. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQSOUND Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 My solution - Remove the faders. Makes it much easier to grab hold of the trims. Not ideal, but helps a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulluysavage Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I've talked to dealers and Sound Devices, and the reason is, the trim is an actual trim pot in an analog stage and the CL-12 is a digital controller. I guess you can go to the 788 ifbyou want, it's the way the 6-series system is designed and priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanpeds Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 5:13 PM, CQSOUND said: My solution - Remove the faders. Makes it much easier to grab hold of the trims. Not ideal, but helps a lot What size are the end caps you are using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQSOUND Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 The caps are actually Vacuum Caps I bought at an auto parts store. I they are trimmed down a bit. Not sure the size, but the caps usually come in a pack with multiple sizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey LaCroix Posted August 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 4:13 PM, CQSOUND said: My solution - Remove the faders. Makes it much easier to grab hold of the trims. Not ideal, but helps a lot Stole your idea and took it a step further! Using the trim knobs couldn’t be easier now. Thanks for the inspiration as I never would have thought of this on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 For caps like the above, look for "thread protectors" or "screw protectors" at a hardware store. You'll typically find them in the section where they have parts in individual drawers. Each color of thread protector corresponds to a given size. Buy different sizes and you'll find they're handy for a variety of things (e.g. covering the barrel of an unfastened DC connector so it can't accidentally short out if it touches conductive metal or covering the on/off switch of a TS3 slate so an AC doesn't mistakenly turn it off when trying to change the brightness.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQSOUND Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Glad I could help,Trey. Your mod looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAB414 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 On 8/28/2018 at 2:01 PM, Trey LaCroix said: Stole your idea and took it a step further! Using the trim knobs couldn’t be easier now. Thanks for the inspiration as I never would have thought of this on my own. Where do I get those beautiful colored faders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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