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1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

If you're buying more than one channel, then per channel costs matter. 

True, but less so if the maximum number of channels is only 4 (vs 8 of some of the other systems).

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

Nobody has done a head to head test of them just yet, so can't answer the first two points yet. (but I strongly expect the Deity to have greater range based on the spec sheet)

True and the test should have more than 1 channel going and ideally be head to head realtime.

 

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

TX size matters far less to consumers than we think, thus the reason why the very bulky RodeLink is so very popular. 

Maybe if the range is better people will keep a RodeLink in a bag but for most of the stuff this gets used for it's not about range.

 

Deity's concept, packaging and features are all much more pro than the others even though it's fixed on a frequency band which limits Connect to 4 channels amongst other things. Hopefully the sound quality makes cheaply supplementing a UHF system with up to 4 extra  channels viable.

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5 hours ago, IronFilm said:

TX size matters far less to consumers than we think, thus the reason why the very bulky RodeLink is so very popular. 

 

They are very popular because they are/were the cheapest ones that really work. You had to go Boyu, or some exotic name/product to find a cheaper wireless system, and AVX was easily double the price, or more.

 

The Go and XS will doninate that market now.

 

Most Youtubers, solo low budget cameramen, kids, usually have 1 person talking in front of their cameras.

 

In anyway, this is a race to the bottom, I am not that interested right now.

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13 hours ago, daniel said:

True, but less so if the maximum number of channels is only 4 (vs 8 of some of the other systems).

I thought you can use a max of four receivers? But the receivers are dual channel, thus a total of 8x TX can be used at once. 

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16 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

I thought you can use a max of four receivers? But the receivers are dual channel, thus a total of 8x TX can be used at once. 

That was earlier before the release, now they are claiming 4 channels if I recall correctly. 

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2 hours ago, Mattias Larsen said:

That was earlier before the release, now they are claiming 4 channels if I recall correctly. 

 

Anyways,because 2.4Ghz inside, I don't see the necessity to have 4 channels if any physical barriers (wall, doors, bushes, human bodys) between the Tx and the Rx generate drop outs like early consumers report on Deity FB group… It seems to only working good in direct line of sight, with the Tx in the front pocket...

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Allen Williams did a really thorough video on his Sound Speeds channel.

Maybe this will help answer some of the remaining questions. I’m in agreement with kisaha that it’s stuck between segments. Not reliable enough for pros but maybe more than consumers need.  

 

 

On 5/14/2019 at 7:01 PM, Ed Denton said:

Not trying to be a dick about it, but 

I was taught to resist the impulse to make statements like this, because it’s a pretty clear acknowledgement that you’re about to do what you’re “not trying” to do. 

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The Go is completely useless, , as it starts dropping out within a few feet the minute you turn around and lose line of sight.

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8 hours ago, Henchman said:

The Go is completely useless, , as it starts dropping out within a few feet the minute you turn around and lose line of sight.

 

Yeah, I'm not surprise, like many 2.4Ghz devices, they are just good for working without cables but very close and in line of sight of the camera ;)

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On 5/13/2019 at 1:49 PM, Mattias Larsen said:

Thank you for sharing this. Seems like there are some kinks to be sorted out. Wonder if it's Zoom or Deity that is to blame in this particular scenario. I have a friend with a F4 that thought of getting deity to replace his G1/2/3s so I wonder if this can potentially affect him too.

 

And just out of curiosity, Borjam - I would be interested to hear the results from your Mixpre torture. 

 

I tried. I didn't have the digital handheld here (which uses time division digital transmission, which makes it nastier, as LarryF explained). 

 

But I have tried with a 5 W FM handheld a few cm away from the recorder. Just pressing the transmission button (PTT) repeteadly I could hear some interference using an AKG Blue Line (CK93 capsule).

 

However, I switched to a microphone with a good RF rejection (Rode NTG8(*), I read somewhere that it is really well protected)) and it withstood it without any problems. Not even maxing out the gain I could hear any kind of interference. Being a RF biased microphone it might be more susceptible to that. 

 

Of course I tried an iPhone running a speed test to my local network (it was transmitting like 250 Mbps) and nothing came out either.

 

If the MixPre 3 has resisted 5 W with the antenna almost touching the unit, also close to the cable and microphone (the cable  is a 1 m long thin star-quad from Canare) I really doubt that a transmitter such as the Deity Connect receiver can affect it. 

 

But it may depend on the microphone. If the microphone cable somewhat conducted interference to the microphone I am pretty sure that a ferrite core or two should help.

 

I can try with the HF transmitter but of course I won't get so close, if I touch the loop antenna by accident while transmitting I can get a painful shock.  Anyway, 5 W so close to the unit is a real torture ;)

 

 

(*) Nice mic, I am using it to try and record some birds. Although the strong metal tube used for transportation could get me arrested if I tried to board a plane with it.

 

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5 hours ago, Mattias Larsen said:

Thanks for the insight, gives me good faith in the Mixpre :)

 

I'll try the digital HT this evening anyway. Given that it transmits TDM pulses instead of a continuous FM modulated carrier it should be nastier. It's 2.5 W, not 5 W, on the same band as the analog one I tried (440 MHz).

 

 

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On 6/4/2019 at 3:19 AM, Mattias Larsen said:

Thanks for the insight, gives me good faith in the Mixpre :)

 

I forgot, the test was especially evil. I connected the Rode NTG8 to channel 3 while channels 1 and 2 (muted) had unterminated 3 m cables connected. Despite being muted the cables could have conducted interference. Seems that the MixPre is a real "RF bunker". 

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6 hours ago, borjam said:

 

I forgot, the test was especially evil. I connected the Rode NTG8 to channel 3 while channels 1 and 2 (muted) had unterminated 3 m cables connected. Despite being muted the cables could have conducted interference. Seems that the MixPre is a real "RF bunker". 

Wonderful! 

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