daniel Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Only 4ms latency - no control over input and output levels. https://en-uk.sennheiser.com/xsw-d-xlr-base-set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, daniel said: Only 4ms latency - no control over input and output levels. https://en-uk.sennheiser.com/xsw-d-xlr-base-set and built-in non-removable (on the field) battery. nice summary: https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/01/25/sennheiser-xs-wireless-digital-entry-level-system/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 The price is right for ultra simple operation and small size and weight. Could be useful as a backup or quick solution. I see Sennheisser makes a lot of consumer/prosumer products lately, which is an ever growing market. It happened in cameras first, then lighting (led revolution) and now it happens in sound also. Small size, appealing design, easy operation and small price are the characteristics of those products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Looking at their packages, seems to be geared towards YouTubers and others who don't anything about sound, particularly with the one geared towards a hot shoe on top of a DSLR/Mirrorless that's common with the "vlogging" crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 15 hours ago, chrismedr said: and built-in non-removable (on the field) battery. Only six hours! (and surely will full to half that length after a few years of constant usage....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 7 hours ago, IronFilm said: Only six hours! (and surely will full to half that length after a few years of constant usage....) For its intended use and target group, 5-6 hours is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Keep in mind, these are just 8mw of transmission power. https://wavreport.com/2019/01/24/new-sennheiser-xs-entry-level-wireless-announced-mostly/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Maybe it could be modified and then used as a camera return ... it won't harm any UHF frequencies used for mikes + hops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjafreddan Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 Hi guys I bought the Sennheiser XSW-D XLR Base set to use as camera hop. I really like the sound quality and with that price tag, it's a no-brainer. Some information straight from the source and by empirical tryouts: Latency: 3.8ms Frequency response: 80-18000Hz Range: about 40-50m outdoors with line-of-sight about 10-15m indoors with a couple of walls in between (both scenarios are dependent on how crowded the 2.4GHz band is on location) Battery: 850 mAh Li-on Battery life: about 5h (both the transmitter and receiver can be operated while running on an external power bank) Transmission power: 10mW (legal in all countries) RF noise/disturbance: none that I have noticed Input level: mic level - line levels have to be padded about 30dB - set and forget Max output level: +12dBu Codec: APT-X live Weight: about 90 grams each Diversity: There is triple diversity, so two antennas with different polarity, both in the transmitter and the receiver. Frequency diversity, all data is constantly transmitted a little time-shifted on two different frequencies, so far apart that they are in separate WiFi channels. Sync time when signal is locked again: very fast Sound quality: excellent. Lossy digital codec: yes but no analogue companding, yeah! Buy it, try it, and thank me later! 😉 Cheers Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 1/31/2019 at 1:30 PM, Mungo said: Maybe it could be modified and then used as a camera return ... it won't harm any UHF frequencies used for mikes + hops. 14 hours ago, ninjafreddan said: Hi guys I bought the Sennheiser XSW-D XLR Base set to use as camera hop. I really like the sound quality and with that price tag, it's a no-brainer. Some information straight from the source and by empirical tryouts: Latency: 3.8ms Frequency response: 80-18000Hz Range: about 40-50m outdoors with line-of-sight about 10-15m indoors with a couple of walls in between (both scenarios are dependent on how crowded the 2.4GHz band is on location) Battery: 850 mAh Li-on Battery life: about 5h (both the transmitter and receiver can be operated while running on an external power bank) Transmission power: 10mW (legal in all countries) RF noise/disturbance: none that I have noticed Input level: mic level - line levels have to be padded about 30dB - set and forget Max output level: +12dBu Codec: APT-X live Weight: about 90 grams each Diversity: There is triple diversity, so two antennas with different polarity, both in the transmitter and the receiver. Frequency diversity, all data is constantly transmitted a little time-shifted on two different frequencies, so far apart that they are in separate WiFi channels. Sync time when signal is locked again: very fast Sound quality: excellent. Lossy digital codec: yes but no analogue companding, yeah! Buy it, try it, and thank me later! 😉 Cheers Fred Have been using it as a camera return feed for about a year and am quite convinced. No gain staging, directly out of camera's headphone (with DC blocking) into TX and RX directly connected to mixer's RTN input. In some environments there are immediate disturbances, probably by wifi and bluetooth. The worst connection that I had was in a hotel lobby at a red carpet event. I discovered that, most of the time, this can be solved by switching off and on again. Seems to sync on a new channel then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjafreddan Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 2:26 PM, Mungo said: Have been using it as a camera return feed for about a year and am quite convinced. No gain staging, directly out of camera's headphone (with DC blocking) into TX and RX directly connected to mixer's RTN input. In this day and age, with multichannel recording in the mixer, why do you need to listen to the camera return? Playbacks for the client? Or are your clients prone to using the sound on the camera? I always send a good REC FEED to the camera, and if there is any problem with it in the sound editing, I figure they will use the separately recorded tracks from my SD664. But more often than I want to, my REC FEED ends up in TV-shows - with comb-filtering and phasing between to lav mics in close proximity. Ah well, the client is always right, even when they are wrong. (I will eventually buy a SD833 with Dugan automixing) On 10/18/2020 at 2:26 PM, Mungo said: I discovered that, most of the time, this can be solved by switching off and on again. Seems to sync on a new channel then. Good to know, thanks! In your experience, what has the range of the system been at different locations? Cheers Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, ninjafreddan said: In this day and age, with multichannel recording in the mixer, why do you need to listen to the camera return? Playbacks for the client? I don't need it for typical multichannel productions. But yes, there are jobs like: News, sports, run'n'gun. Broadcasted same day, sometimes even same moment (via 4G backpack on camera). Mostly one or few channels. 45 minutes ago, ninjafreddan said: In your experience, what has the range of the system been at different locations? Hard to say, as always. Interior probably equal to a worn out G2/G3, exterior 30 metres. It strongly depends if there is line of sight between TX and RX, which, for me, is given most of the time when it's mounted on camera and on the mixer. With people, animals, metal (e.g. vehicles) or glass windows between the units, the range will decrease dramatically. But enough for jobs mentioned above where range is not as important as freedom of movement and of course only off-air as a return. Greets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Any idea how many can be used at simultaneously? I'm guessing it's not possible to pair 1 TX to 2 or more RX(?) but 1 could use 2, 3 or even 4 sets to send scratch to several cams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjafreddan Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 hours ago, daniel said: Any idea how many can be used at simultaneously? Officially, five systems. In reality, probably 8-10 systems - depending on how crowded the 2.4GHz band is. 6 hours ago, daniel said: I'm guessing it's not possible to pair 1 TX to 2 or more RX(?) but 1 could use 2, 3 or even 4 sets to send scratch to several cams. No, it’s not. The communication is bidirectional between a paired transmitter and receiver. Cheers Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted October 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 6:43 PM, ninjafreddan said: Officially, five systems. In reality, probably 8-10 systems - depending on how crowded the 2.4GHz band is. No, it’s not. The communication is bidirectional between a paired transmitter and receiver. Cheers Fred thanks fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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