Roy Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Hi guys, was wondering if this mic could be used for dialogues on a sennheiser g3 tx, or a lectrosonics smqv tx in noisy environments. i was looking for a cardioid lav for noisy situations. looking everywhere but found no answer regarding dialogue recording for film and broadcast purposes. Pls advise .thank you in advance https://www.countryman.com/isomax-2-all-purpose-microphone/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 Cardioid lavs are kind of a specialty device and not used that often for dialogue. They're more susceptible to wind noise, and there's also the problem of the talent moving their heads during normal conversation. I haven't found they necessarily keep out more noise than other mics in noisy environments. I did find that they're sometimes better for resisting feedback in live stage situations, but only "somewhat," depending on actor's position. Audio-Technica, Countryman, DPA, Sennheiser, and Shure all make cardioid (and even super-cardioid) lavalier mics, but my advice would be to test them before committing to a purchase. You may find that noise-reduction in post or ADR are more practical solutions for noisy locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Westgate Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Exactly Mark! Noisy locations are the production's choice and tell the actors/presenter to speak up!! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 The only time I ever used a cardioid lav for dialog was when the mic needed to be integrated with a live system and feedback was an issue. The best Omni lav i've ever come across for isolating dialog was the Sony ECM-55.. unfortunately it's freak'n huge by today's standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Westgate Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hi Rick Yep those early Sony mikes were amazing! Large but so uniform in specs I used to use two ECM50's to demo phase issues With one out of phase and with matched gains there was no sound at all!!! Amazing mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 In certain circumstances, a chest-mounted DPA 4080 can serve well for some background noise attenuation. However, it needs to be able to be visible (most clients want hidden lavs), aimed properly, etc., so such use is quite limited. I employ them more for car visor mounts, but the low end rolloff is a bit extreme. It's designed to compensate for the proximity effect when placed on a chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I have some of these and the accessory mounts for instruments, they work surprisingly well for very close pickup of violins, violas, cellos, double bass, brass, woodwinds etc and Countryman's mounts for them are cheap (comp to DPA) and unobstrusive. For dialog they'd be ok, not my fave at all in my own comparisons, and they are kind of big by today's standards for being hidden in wardrobe. If you want the Countryman sound in a "buryable" lav mic I'd recommend looking at B3--great sound at a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Yeah Mike, I recall the ECM-50 from my early ENG days. I do not think there was a 'lapel' (clothing mount) mic prior to it. I also recall it was only available in one color .. silver, and was powered by a 'n' cell battery. The news anchors really liked the sound of them. The '55' came in two colors, silver and black. (ECM-55b). My two remaining 55s can be powered by a AA or Phantom Power... and they still work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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