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"“The TF-5 is the best small diaphragm condenser in the world, plain and simple,” says RØDE Founder and Chairman Peter Freedman AM."

Huh. That's from the press release. More such statements here:

http://www.rode.com/blog/all/introducing-the-rode-tf5-premium-condenser-cardioids

 

And hera's a two-minute promo video with Tony Faulkner (the TF in TF-5):

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Display Name said:

Looks interesting. 

 

I guess we soon will see these compared with a pair of cheap, tiny but well renowned CM-3. 

Speaking of which, Line Audio have just announced the followup to the CM3 - the CM4. Higher output, same price. Hopefully with a similar sound. 

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7 hours ago, Jim Feeley said:

"“The TF-5 is the best small diaphragm condenser in the world, plain and simple,” says RØDE Founder and Chairman Peter Freedman AM."

Huh. That's from the press release. 

Wow, that's a bit to bold and too wide to take them serious.

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7 minutes ago, Mattias Larsen said:

Wow, that's a bit to bold and too wide to take them serious.

 

Yes absolutely. Although the 14dBA selfnoise figure is pretty good. On par with the Schoeps MK41...

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Rode's target market won't care, and may even like, Freedman's hubris. And I'd guess some more critical users will be tempted to at least give the mics a listen. 

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9 hours ago, nickreich said:

Speaking of which, Line Audio have just announced the followup to the CM3 - the CM4. Higher output, same price. Hopefully with a similar sound. 

 

Yes. I noticed the CM4 after I posted! :)

And a bit more pronounced cardio then the CM3. 

 

I placed an order for a pair as soon as I saw them. I have not yet received a confirmation on them though.

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8 hours ago, Constantin said:

 

Yes absolutely. Although the 14dBA selfnoise figure is pretty good. On par with the Schoeps MK41...

Sure, it's okish. But makes me giggle at "Exceptionally low noise floor" when Sennheiser or Nevaton cuts that selfnoise in half in some sdcs. 

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11 minutes ago, Mattias Larsen said:

Sure, it's okish. But makes me giggle at "Exceptionally low noise floor" when Sennheiser or Nevaton cuts that selfnoise in half in some sdcs. 

 

No, it’s pretty good, but it’s only a number and as such pretty meaningless. 

 

But I‘m curious, which Sennheiser „cuts that selfnoise in half“?

I only know of the MKH800 as a pretty quiet mic and at 10dBA that‘s still not half. 

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Comparable to the AKG ULS Series (11 dBA, but with 3 dB less sensitivity).

 

Anyway, I guess that the only way to compare to a Shoeps or a DPA is to go and record an actual orchestra. Off axis response variations will make the biggest difference. 

 

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2 hours ago, Constantin said:

 

No, it’s pretty good, but it’s only a number and as such pretty meaningless. 

 

But I‘m curious, which Sennheiser „cuts that selfnoise in half“?

I only know of the MKH800 as a pretty quiet mic and at 10dBA that‘s still not half. 

Definitely, it's about how it sounds in the end. I thought their sdcs with card characteristics were quieter to be honest.  I guess it is a bit unfair as it's another design, but the mkh60 and 70 lists 8 and 5db a-weighted selfnoise. 

 

I am really curious about the new Nevaton MC59 that lists 5db selfnoise for omni and 7db for card. I (probably falsely) assumed that mkh8040 were in the same ballpark as that is what a lot of nature recordist default to for quiet recordings (they are a bit more sensitive so that may help) 

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1 hour ago, Mattias Larsen said:

it is a bit unfair as it's another design, but the mkh60 and 70 lists 8 and 5db a-weighted selfnoise. 

 

Well, all is fair when you make a claim such as Rode did. 

But wow, I never knew that about the MKH70 that is very quiet!

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1 hour ago, TVPostSound said:

Unless you're spot mic'ing a Trombone, an orchestra wont exceed 100dB.

Is a matter about max spl and distance from the source. A big orchestra easily meet 120dB SPL (Peak) in a fortissimo in the typical position of the main pair, but over 130 (Peak) as spot microphone (Depends of the instrument/instruments)

 

https://academic.oup.com/view-large/3169085

 

 

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1 hour ago, ramallo said:

Is a matter about max spl and distance from the source. A big orchestra easily meet 120dB SPL (Peak) in a fortissimo in the typical position of the main pair, but over 130 (Peak) as spot microphone (Depends of the instrument/instruments)

 

https://academic.oup.com/view-large/3169085

 

 

 

That‘s a pretty interesting list of decibel numbers you linked there. For a moment I wondered why the trumpet wouldn’t be louder compared to other instruments, but then I thought the really interesting measurement here would be that of the person sitting in front of the trumpet...

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2 minutes ago, Constantin said:

 

That‘s a pretty interesting list of decibel numbers you linked there. For a moment I wondered why the trumpet wouldn’t be louder compared to other instruments, but then I thought the really interesting measurement here would be that of the person sitting in front of the trumpet...

Usually in front of the trumpets and trombones is sitting a methacrylate shield, for do a protection for the musicians seating in front of this instruments.

 

The complete paper:

 

https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/55/8/893/264708


 

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6 hours ago, ramallo said:

Usually in front of the trumpets and trombones is sitting a methacrylate shield, for do a protection for the musicians seating in front of this instruments.

 

In professional orchestras, yes. And not even in all of those. But in many many amateur orchestras, no. 

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I was referring to the recording position. And TF mics.

Were going off on a tangent.

 

 

 

 

 

Remember unlike a bull the horns are in the back  and the ___is in the front!!!

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2 hours ago, TVPostSound said:

I was referring to the recording position. And TF mics.

Were going off on a tangent.

 

 

 

 

 

Remember unlike a bull the horns are in the back  and the ___is in the front!!!

 

Yes, that’s the beauty of a discussion forum, a discussion can go off topic and return again. 

So Ramallo said it all, an orchestra can easily exceed 120dB SPL at the typical main mic position.

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1 hour ago, Constantin said:

 

Yes, that’s the beauty of a discussion forum, a discussion can go off topic and return again. 

So Ramallo said it all, an orchestra can easily exceed 120dB SPL at the typical main mic position.

 

But yet TF recommends them for an orchestra!!! Also as a spot mic for soloists!!

 

Reading between the lines, the TF5 spec does NOT state max SPL, only 

Input SPL @ 1% THD 

120 dB SPL (1kHz @ 1% THD, 600Ω load)

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