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3 hours ago, Constantin said:


other than the channel linking, why would a Scorpio not be suitable? From what I‘ve read it seems very suitable for music recordings. I have never recorded music with a recorder that could link more than two channels. 

Constantin, you’re right. Not totally necessary. That being said, with an X3/Mini you would get built in faders. In my experience faders are crucial for mixing and recording music.

 

I guess generally speaking I’m just disappointed with SDs new offerings. They seem to be bigger, bulkier, and more power hungry. Just doesn’t make sense in contrast to other offerings. I’m looking forward to seeing something really cool and innovative coming from SD.

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5 hours ago, ivanovich said:

 

I guess generally speaking I’m just disappointed with SDs new offerings. They seem to be bigger, bulkier, and more power hungry. Just doesn’t make sense in contrast to other offerings. I’m looking forward to seeing something really cool and innovative coming from SD.


I have a similar sentiment - if I was looking for a recorder that would sit on a cart all the time, the 888/8 series would be perfect.


As someone who does a lot of bag work even the 833s power consumption is a bit inhibitive for me. It has a lot of great features over the 633, but moves more in the direction of a heavy/power hungry bag for documentary.

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The 633 as it is today is a very solid recorder. Unless you really really need two more inputs, I think it‘d make a lot of sense to just keep your 633 or buy one very cheap on tue used market. You don’t have to upgrade to the 833...

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Oh for sure - I’m using my 633 right this moment! Also for doc I’ve been using the mix pre 6 to go even more lightweight.
 

Im in no rush to upgrade, but when surveying the newer options for the work I do, the direction of the Nova seems more intuitive as it meets my ergonomic/power needs more than the 8 series mixers.

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If only they’d have had all six inputs on the 633 be mic/line/aes. Man that would be a hard machine to replace. But as it stands, I keep having a hard time justifying moving to an 833 with really very little difference in features, and the problem of power consumption. I do a lot of doc work and travel gigs and like it has been said before, being able to pack light has been a big asset. To think that I’ll need twice as many batteries and possibly another dual charger to do the same work. I’ll have to keep weighing out the pros and cons while all the early adopters find all the bugs!

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I think the whole power issue of the 833 is over exaggerated somewhat, as before mine arrived then I somewhat feared that too based on reading people's feelings/speculation about the 833, but I've found in practice that using the 833 I have only been using the two "internal" NP-F970 batteries and haven't even needed to switch over ever! (to be fair, I haven't done any loooooong days with it yet, and I turn it off when not in use such as say during lunch break)

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7 hours ago, IronFilm said:

I think the whole power issue of the 833 is over exaggerated somewhat, as before mine arrived then I somewhat feared that too based on reading people's feelings/speculation about the 833, but I've found in practice that using the 833 I have only been using the two "internal" NP-F970 batteries and haven't even needed to switch over ever! (to be fair, I haven't done any loooooong days with it yet, and I turn it off when not in use such as say during lunch break)

IMHO, the power usage difference between a short predictable day and long unpredictable day can be really high. Not having enough batteries is arguably the least acceptable 'technical' issue 1 can have. Although when I was staffer I noticed camera guys wouldn't protest with the kit room guys if given only enough power for 10 hour day - it saved discussions with producers about overtime ,'). I'm going through my current battery inventory now doing standby and runtime tests and label the batteries accordingly - and plan to do so on a cyclical basis. 

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Side note on the power issue, anyone here have favorite sources for power cables for the 833? In particular, Hirose 4 pin to TA4, and 2.5mm locking to TA4. 

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So far every time I've upgraded my digital field recorder I've had to up my battery game as well--the new device seems to chew the external batteries up faster.  Predictable, I guess....  More features=more DC.

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3 hours ago, Philip Perkins said:

So far every time I've upgraded my digital field recorder I've had to up my battery game as well--the new device seems to chew the external batteries up faster.  Predictable, I guess....  More features=more DC.

Perhaps mostly with SD offerings. Some other options its actually more features and less DC....

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4 hours ago, Rifthead said:

Side note on the power issue, anyone here have favorite sources for power cables for the 833? In particular, Hirose 4 pin to TA4, and 2.5mm locking to TA4. 

I use a hirose to ta4 with my bds. It works fine but I don't ever charge the Sony L batts with the 833.

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Another side note, what are the disadvantages of using the Icon M+ control surface with the 833 without the D2 display? In the manual, it just says the D2 is required for full functionality...anyone combining the M+ with the D2 without a control surface? 

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1 hour ago, Rifthead said:

Another side note, what are the disadvantages of using the Icon M+ control surface with the 833 without the D2 display? In the manual, it just says the D2 is required for full functionality...anyone combining the M+ with the D2 without a control surface? 

I did for the first few weeks. It’s o LT really an issue if you accidentally bank the faders without realizing it. That caused a few “what the fuck?” Moments.

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