Max Futterman Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 This definitely looks ideally suited for YouTubers who just need a visible lav and an easy way to sync everything. Granted, a COS11 costs more than the unit itself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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daniel Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 12 hours ago, Max Futterman said: This definitely looks ideally suited for YouTubers who just need a visible lav and an easy way to sync everything. Granted, a COS11 costs more than the unit itself... In Video, Ulrich says Track E has "Sync E built in". So does this mean it can also be used like a Sync E for syncing other devices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillepalle Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 @ daniel It should work. If they can be synced (probably via the mic input) they should also be able jam other units. But you're right. In their demo videos it's not really clear because they don't show how they get synched and they use normal tentacles for the camera. But even if they just can be jammed, it wouldn't be a dealbreaker, because you can simply use a the TC of the camera or field recorder, or jam a normal tentacle on them. On the Gotham Sounds YouTube channel they have had a nice demo video of the normal E units that shows the saftey features of the bluetooth technology. So it alerts you when one unit is out of jam, you set the wrong framerate, or the input connector is not connected. Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, pillepalle said: If they can be synced (probably via the mic input) As I understand it you sync them via the smartphone app or you use them unsynced. Not sure if they can output TC. I would think no, because they would’ve emphasized it more and it would kind of take away most reasons to buy an actual Sync E (as I‘ve heard they cost the same) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillepalle Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 @ constantin If they couldn't be synced to other devices what sense would make the inbiult timecode generator? As far as Ulli from Tentacle mentioned bluetooth is not ideal for time critical applications and that it's reccomended to jam the units via cable. For monitoring purposes bluetooth is okay because they refresh the signal only once a second. Maybe they can't jam other devices so the classical Sync E is used on devices that usually have no timecode option. But it seems we have to wait and see... Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scrip Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, daniel said: In Video, Ulrich says Track E has "Sync E built in". So does this mean it can also be used like a Sync E for syncing other devices? Yeah I'm wondering the same thing. I have a MixPre-6 II that has its own timecode... so I was planning on getting a Sync E for my camera. BUT... if the Track E can do the same things as the Sync E... I might as well get that instead and have a bonus audio recorder for other applications. The Track E is slightly bigger than the Sync E... but both are still very small. They both have timecode capabilities built-in... and both have 3.5mm jacks (which is how you would jam timecode in/out) So it's very possible that the Track E can perform as a Sync E alternative. I think Ulrich said they'd both be around the same price too. If so... I wonder how much longer both products would need to exist? IF the Track E can do all the same things as a Sync E.... *and* it also includes lavelier recording... it seems like the Track E could just become their default product. I'll be keeping an eye on this. We've got a few months anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Michael Scrip said: Yeah I'm wondering the same thing. I have a MixPre-6 II that has its own timecode... so I was planning on getting a Sync E for my camera. BUT... if the Track E can do the same things as the Sync E... I might as well get that instead and have a bonus audio recorder for other applications. The Track E is slightly bigger than the Sync E... but both are still very small. They both have timecode capabilities built-in... and both have 3.5mm jacks (which is how you would jam timecode in/out) So it's very possible that the Track E can perform as a Sync E alternative. I think Ulrich said they'd both be around the same price too. If so... I wonder how much longer both products would need to exist? IF the Track E can do all the same things as a Sync E.... *and* it also includes lavelier recording... it seems like the Track E could just become their default product. I'll be keeping an eye on this. We've got a few months anyway. Indeed. If Track E passes audio, it could even be said Track E is the Sync E to use with a radio mic scratch track (if requested) or a plug in/nothing otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankaudio Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 A nice little back up for the bag mixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvark Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 12 hours ago, FrankH said: A nice little back up for the bag mixer Yeah, it's a shame it doesn't have a simple record button or stereo input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidelio Sound Co Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Kvark said: Yeah, it's a shame it doesn't have a simple record button or stereo input. It’s still just a prototype. You should provide that feedback to them and who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 5:52 PM, pillepalle said: If they couldn't be synced to other devices what sense would make the inbiult timecode generator? To keep sync for a long time without the need to re-sync? It can be synced to other devices - via a Sync E. Anyway, it would of course be really cool if it could indeed output TC. We just need to wait and see I‘m afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvark Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Fidelio Sound Co said: It’s still just a prototype. You should provide that feedback to them and who knows... That's true. Maybe I'll reach out to them. I would really like to use it as a backup recorder. Auto-rec when it receives power. L/R from the recorder. The problem is, I'm not using Tentacle boxes for sync. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidelio Sound Co Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Kvark said: That's true. Maybe I'll reach out to them. I would really like to use it as a backup recorder. Auto-rec when it receives power. L/R from the recorder. The problem is, I'm not using Tentacle boxes for sync. Don’t see why it’s a problem that you’re not using tentacles. They jam with any other device on the market just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 IBC 2019 coverage on newsshooter: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scrip Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 The Track E finally has a listing on B&H !!! https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1506356-REG/tentacle_sync_track_e_pocket_audio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Michael Scrip said: The Track E finally has a listing on B&H !!! B&H doesn't list a price or availability date, but I guess it's getting closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedv Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 After some Covid-related delays, the Tentacle Sync Track E is now available for pre-order from B&H for $349: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1506356-REG/tentacle_sync_track_e_pocket_audio.html From the updates on the Tentacle Sync website, it sounds like they are going to begin manufacturing in the next couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
independent Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 No headphone out jacket for US models. Thanks a lot, Zaxcommunists! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevo Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Can it output Timecode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevo Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Looks like no TC OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 10/28/2020 at 2:20 PM, independent said: No headphone out jacket for US models. Thanks a lot, Zaxcommunists! Your statement is incorrect. The Tentacle-E has a headphone jack to facilitate setup monitoring and for playback of audio directly from the card. For the US model, Tentacle decided to disable the headphone jack during recording -- this is obviously done so as to not in any way infringe on the Zaxcom patent. From what I can tell so far, Tentacle has done a terrific job is designing this unit and for its specific market I think it will be very successful. I will also add that generally for its intended purpose, placing on a subject to be recorded, disabling monitoring while recording shouldn't b e a big obstacle to its effective use. If you really need to monitor while recording, use a wireless transmitter and spit the mic to feed both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scrip Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 Here's another review: https://wavreport.com/2020/11/12/review-tentacle-track-e/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Does anyone know if the license key for tentacle sync studio is directly linked to the device or do you get an unlock key thats independent of the device? Right now I dont need these tentacle boxes as I am using ultrasync but I really need the software, so maybe I will buy a tentacle sync and maybe resell it later without the software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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