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    DOWNCONVERTER

Decimator Design  2

Australian made downconverter.  It’s a low cost  miniature 3G/HDSDI to NTSC/PAL with Aspect Ratio Conversion: Anamorphic,  Letterbox, centercut. Power supply included.  Rental prices are  still at 95.00 per day on a 3-day week (2010 July), same as the AJA rates. New  2010 list $ 495.00.

http://www.decimator.com/products-decimator2.php

It downconverts to NTSC or PAL Composite signals and to  HDMI, and de-embeds audio (no other flavors of SD, be it digital or analog)  [september 2010 version will have audio meters]. Input can be either PAL or  NTSC HD-SDI and output can be NTSC or PAL switchable composite and HDMI.

Has problems with 23.98 frame on HDMI… Perry Drogo says:  “The Decimator2 will pass all formats of SDI to HDMI with the next Firmware  update, which will be available at the end of October 2010. For now it works as  the Decimator 1 does fine for composite out at 23.98.”

Importer and Rep:  TECADS Inc.  Contact:  Perry Drogo,

Phone: USA 949 597-1053, 23 Dellpadre  street, Foothills Ranch Ca. 92610

  Email: sales@tecads.com Website:  http://www.tecads.com/FW_EXPORTS/DECIMATOR.htm 

In stock at:  Alan  Gordon, Sales guy is Ken 323 466-3561 in Hollywood

Owner:  Wayne Loucks waynel@alangordon.com

And Birns and Sawyer http://www.birnsandsawyer.com/search.aspx?srch=decimator 

And Abel Cine

Also In stock at: Charles Papert http://www.charlespapert.com/  info@charlespapert.com  c) 323-350-8822, rep for TECADS he is a Steadicam operator lives in Los Feliz  and can give all round good advice.

Powerplug and special cables: there is a very unusual  power plug on the Decimator. Look at it closely it is polarized with a little lip. You  must align the lip on the plug with the hole on the receptacle for it to insert  and hold!!! 

We make cables adapting to all cameras or fancy “Y”  cables to Decimator and any transmitter. Most are $ 150.00 some more. Call we  have most in stock. Wolf 310-822-4973.

Note: The RedOne Camera sometimes (often) has a  jitter in its HDSDI output. This is not cured by downconverting, only by a good  “reclocker”. Folks prefer the AJA HD10DA because it works while the 3G  version of the AJA DA has caused some operators problems. Others like the Black  Magic.

Signal Generator: http://www.decimator.com/products-3g-tpg.php  $1200.00  not sure if there is a lower priced one available.  Check out the Decimator Design (Redbyte  Design) 3G-TPG Test Pattern Generator. All format HD/SD with moving  pattern and embedded audio in SDI. SDI outputs only no HDMI or analog video.  Battery powered for instant signal source anywhere on set especially handy for  checking cables and monitors with a known signal.

Blackmagic: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/miniconverters/ 

Have similar products, carefully check details, some say  their products handle redone better.  AJA makes them too.

wolf (we rent these but not sell them)

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    HD monitors 7”:  ( downconverting and SD monitors is much cheaper)

http://www.flandersscientific.com/index/Broadcast_Monitors 

Possibly interesting - have not seen them. Available from  Film Tools http://www.filmtools.com/  in Burbank. 24 volts, audio disembedding.  They have also Ican and others http://www.filmtools.com/camonboarmon.html 

These are all small monitors I know of:

Boland (HD LCD) ,GPI  (greenscreen SD CRT), LC (HD LCD from  Bulgaria), Lumavec/Blackbird (SD LCD), Marshall  (HD LCD, OLED), Nebtek (HD LCD), Tiffen  (HD LCD, OLED), Transvideo  (HD LCD), XCS (greenscreen SD CRT)

Transvideo – made in France - has an expensive  product with the most features; the Tiffen Ultrabright is in a similar class.  However both are in the $6 to $7K range.

 

  Marshall and Nebtek, at $2100 and $2900 respectively, have units that provide  similar viewability at a fraction of the cost. The Nebtek has a larger display  being 16:9 and will have user adjustable framelines, which is putting it  at the top of a lot of people's lists. Marshall is a Chinese supplied USA front  box house.

 

  The Blackbird was the best SD LCD we heard of in terms of view-ability, but at  $4K, expensive.

 

 

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    LCD  7” Handheld TV

Rechargeable battery inside

They make  12V and 6V models    The  TV tuner is as good as the best. Easily  visible in full sun with good color. We protect the LCD with a delicately applied  anti-scratch and anti reflection protection film. External Lithium NP-7S battery  lasts tested 6 hours. The wide viewing angle enables three people to watch.  The last channel selected before power down, is remembered on next power up.  There is a removable 5/8” spud on a plate for stand mounting. We  provide a convenient tough hi-performance antenna with a 90-degree flex joint  on BNC. Shoulder strap provided.

16:9  aspect ratio for HD wide screen & 4:3 aspect ratio for standard screen,  screen size 7" diagonal, built-in mini speakers, Inputs: 1 video RCA &  2 audio RCA, “F” connector for antenna. Outputs: headphones, mini only!  No video out. ATSC Digital over the  air tuner + NTSC analog Tuner 125 Ch + CATV.  7-16.4V.  At 12V it draws .6A  with no battery. The 10” draws .7A. Will not turn on above 16V.

The  7” LCD has a built-in (removable) 4400 mA LiPo 7V battery that lasts a tested  1:45 hours.  Put the external NP-1  battery on the back bracket and it will operate the monitor and charge the  INTERNAL battery slowly (6 Hrs). Then the monitor draws 1.4A max.  The battery takes 28W Hr. Once the internal  battery is fully charged, the LCD draws .6A.  Turn the 7” LCD OFF (Switch on left side) and you will charge the  internal battery from the external one more quickly (3 Hrs).  The manufacturer claims you will not destroy  the internal battery if you leave the monitor on.  You will not destroy external batteries, IDX or Bauer by  over-discharge as they are protected by a battery internal low voltage  disconnect switch.  We think that the  automatic cut off voltage on the Np-1 type batteries is set too low and you  will reduce those batteries lifetime if you let the dischare go to the auto  turn off point always. What do you gain by removing the internal battery?  Probably 10% total longer run time of  external batteries and the convenience of lighter weight and for the  uninitiated a more predicable performance.

http://www.amazon.com/Haier-HLT71-7-Inch-Handheld-LCD/dp/B001E78UQY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1286955791&sr=8-1

we bought 50 of these - sold 30 - they are all still good which is saying a lot.  they are not as sensitive as the best Sony tuners, have not compared sensitivity to other portable TV / tuners. also make 10" ones...  dont, everybody will look over your shoulder.

wolf

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Hey Guys,

First off, yes I did a search.

I've been working on my first feature with two red cams.  They are sending SDI to a panasonic monitor.  I just got my cart and my monitors.  Here is what I went with.

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The RED outputs HD-SDI specifically.... A monitor that can take SDI will not see it. Even a "HD monitor" with an SDI input still might not handle HD-SDI, unless it specifically says so.

Last I looked there were no inexpensive options for 7" HD-SDI compatible monitors. The cheaper way to do it is to get a down converter (Red Byte, Black Magic, Aja or whatever) for each monitor. You would probably put the down converter at video village, and then take your feed from there. You will have an SD signal. you can feed that into coax, CAT-5 (with the adapter boxes), go wireless or whatever.

Offhand I think the RED is the only camera that doesn't have any built-in SD output. If you had something like the Red Byte decimator, you could convert anything you will see on set. At least anything I have encountered.

Using unscientific research I have noticed that the cheaper Delvcam monitors (maybe around $250) look a good bit better than the $100 ones you pick up at a place like Office Depot. I usually use a Delvcam, but keep the others as a spare (or for 2 camera shoots). I'm using it for what a sound mixer needs, so these are not the kind of monitor a DIT would use. 

Pretty much all of these little 7" monitors I have seen use 12volt. They come with a wall power adapter as well as a car adapter. I just wire up a feed from my cart's power system. *most* of the cheap ones have tripod mount screws on them, but not all do! Some just have a picture frame kickstand type thing. Something to keep an eye on. I found cheap generic camera ball mounts on ebay for about $10 that allow you to adjust the monitor for glare.

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Another option that I can't find being mentioned on this thread before...

The fine people of Remote Audio have put together a video assist 7" LCD monitor package, with sound carts in mind: http://www.remoteaudio.com/videoassist/.

The idea was to spec a monitor that was not over-kill for what sound mixers need a video monitor for: Framing and shadows, and powered by 12VDC. The extra expense of SDI input was passed on because I think it makes much more sense to convert the signal at the source so that long video runs can be sent to the sound cart via a CAT5 system.

I just installed two on my cart today (see picture below). An unintended benefit is that they draw only half the power of my previous 7" monitors I was using (only 0.4A instead of 1A for a savings of 1.2A), which means my cart will last 20% longer on battery power.

Glen Trew

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