Olle Sjostrom Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 If you look at carts in the gallery on this site you'll probably see that most of them have open fronts, which means there are no bars on the sides of the shelves. The widest gear I don't know, it always depends, but I would very much like to be able to remove bars on certain sections of the cart to allow for wider gear when I need to, and to be able to put rack width gear and attach that gear to the sides. I imagine that gear would be more or less permanent. Again, I'm not in the market since I now work in radio (and even so I do actually have a cart at work sometimes). In short, I want my imaginary cart to be very flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 7:01 AM, indiefilm said: which TV lift did you use? I was already thinking using that too if I decide to have that feature as electrically powered It‘s either this one or very similar to it. It’s a cheap China import, I believe. It’s not ideal, though. It constantly draws a few amps and, worse, it needs 24V which I don’t usually have on my cart. Also, I couldn’t program it to other stop points, and they didn’t help with it, but you may be able to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefilm Posted January 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Someone on this site had listed Tilta as being a cart manufacturer. According to Kennedy Fielding at their new LA store, “Unfortunately our Tilta film/steadicam carts are for our showroom purposes only and not sold for retail in any country.” I saw online where some were and may still be offered for sale to buyers in the USA, so buyer beware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefilm Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 12/8/2019 at 7:25 AM, Olle Sjostrom said: If I were in the market (I work in radio, and though sometimes we do small OB gigs, it doesn't really warrant a custom cart. We have a sound cart though) I would like : - a rack width frame, but it should be "open" so that you could attach bars with rack holes to shelves, I hope you understand what I mean. I'd like to be able to put rack width gear on one section of the cart and have the cart be without bars on one section. At what height do you want it to be able to be “open”? Also how large width wise does the “open” area need to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Immoral Mr Teas Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 20 hours ago, indiefilm said: ....... Also how large width wise does the “open” area need to be? Rack width? (19 inches) Or do you mean depth? (Available space backwards for big rack equipment). Jez (guessing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 I guess I mean I'd like the maximum width of the cart to be 19" so if I wanted I could mount bars where I could put rack width equipment, but also be able to take those "bars" ( sorry not a native English speaker so I probably am at a loss of words here) off if I wanted to put something wider in there instead. Depth wise I'm not really sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 10:24 AM, Olle Sjostrom said: I guess I mean I'd like the maximum width of the cart to be 19" so if I wanted I could mount bars where I could put rack width equipment, but also be able to take those "bars" ( sorry not a native English speaker so I probably am at a loss of words here) off if I wanted to put something wider in there instead. Depth wise I'm not really sure. I've never noticed you having anything but an admirable command of the English language -- unlike too many of our compatriots. A common term here for the rack mounting strips with pre-drilled holes is "rack ears." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, John Blankenship said: I've never noticed you having anything but an admirable command of the English language -- unlike too many of our compatriots. A common term here for the rack mounting strips with pre-drilled holes is "rack ears." I think "rack ears" refers to the panels attached to the left and right of the rack mountable gear --- it is the rack ears that provide the attachment to the rack RAILS. Rack railes of various sorts with standard spaced holes drilled and tapped are available in steel (and sometimes aluminum) from Starcase and a few other companies. LINK to Starcase rack rails. Another good source is LMB Heeger (best selection of aluminum rack rails) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefilm Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 5:32 PM, The Immoral Mr Teas said: Rack width? (19 inches) Or do you mean depth? (Available space backwards for big rack equipment). Jez (guessing) 19” would be no problem. Larger than that would be tricky hence why I asked the question. I’m sure some mixers are wider but what percentage are and how many location sound mixers would need that I can’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Jeff Wexler said: I think "rack ears" refers to the panels attached to the left and right of the rack mountable gear --- it is the rack ears that provide the attachment to the rack RAILS. Rack railes of various sorts with standard spaced holes drilled and tapped are available in steel (and sometimes aluminum) from Starcase and a few other companies. LINK to Starcase rack rails. Another good source is LMB Heeger (best selection of aluminum rack rails) Thank you! So yeah, Rails was what I meant. Detachable rack rails would be awesome. And detachable sections too. I’m dreaming of being able to have one part of the cart, like the lower, contain rack width equipment, like receivers, batteries or the likes, and the top section containing the recorder and maybe some redundant battery powered receiver, so that the top section can come off and be put in a car or in a small space where you couldn’t fit the whole shebang. But on the other hand, now that Nova is out and can have 8 receivers in a bag, I might as well just take the bag.. (again, I don’t have any movie equipment any more since I work in radio nowadays, But if i were to invest in movie sound equipment I’d invest in Nova for sure, thus not requiring as much of a cart) But as a radio sound mixer, a cart is surprisingly useful. We do use a lot of rack width equipment and one VERY large mixer (still rack width but just impossibly heavy and cumbersome: Digico) and then another lovely small custom built called Seeport from a Norwegian company called Seem Audio. Anyway, a cart that’s customizable would be awesome, seeing as I, if I were to switch back to movies, would probably keep a foot in both worlds (? Again language, this proverb is a verbatim translation of a Swedish one.) and want to be able to go back and forth between minimal setup and heavier setups... On the topic off tipping over: I don't think I've ever had a cart tip over, even when I'm overloading it.. Maybe a slightly longer (deeper) base than the shelves would give some, even more, security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 16 hours ago, Jeff Wexler said: I think "rack ears" refers to the panels attached to the left and right of the rack mountable gear --- it is the rack ears that provide the attachment to the rack RAILS. Rack railes of various sorts with standard spaced holes drilled and tapped are available in steel (and sometimes aluminum) from Starcase and a few other companies. LINK to Starcase rack rails. Another good source is LMB Heeger (best selection of aluminum rack rails) Good catch -- thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 19 hours ago, John Blankenship said: I've never noticed you having anything but an admirable command of the English language -- unlike too many of our compatriots. Thanks! I like to think I'm fluent, buy that's just in the spoken form.. Writing is a different beast... But I guess watching all those movies with subtitles really paid off in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefilm Posted February 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 3:38 AM, Olle Sjostrom said: Thank you! So yeah, Rails was what I meant. Detachable rack rails would be awesome. And detachable sections too. I’m dreaming of being able to have one part of the cart, like the lower, contain rack width equipment, like receivers, batteries or the likes, and the top section containing the recorder and maybe some redundant battery powered receiver, so that the top section can come off and be put in a car or in a small space where you couldn’t fit the whole shebang. But on the other hand, now that Nova is out and can have 8 receivers in a bag, I might as well just take the bag.. (again, I don’t have any movie equipment any more since I work in radio nowadays, But if i were to invest in movie sound equipment I’d invest in Nova for sure, thus not requiring as much of a cart) But as a radio sound mixer, a cart is surprisingly useful. We do use a lot of rack width equipment and one VERY large mixer (still rack width but just impossibly heavy and cumbersome: Digico) and then another lovely small custom built called Seeport from a Norwegian company called Seem Audio. Anyway, a cart that’s customizable would be awesome, seeing as I, if I were to switch back to movies, would probably keep a foot in both worlds (? Again language, this proverb is a verbatim translation of a Swedish one.) and want to be able to go back and forth between minimal setup and heavier setups... On the topic off tipping over: I don't think I've ever had a cart tip over, even when I'm overloading it.. Maybe a slightly longer (deeper) base than the shelves would give some, even more, security. Thx Ollie. I’ll see what I can do to accommodate these ideas. As for detachable sections, there are several on the market that basically split horizontally/vertically into two sections. Is that what you had in mind or were you thinking of something more specific or different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Yeah, it’d be great if you could be able to split one section at least: the top one, so that you can take it off for tighter locations. Sure, most people I’ve seen have a bag on their cart that they take off and lug around when they change to cars or whatever, but there could be a middle way with the top section, so to speak. Sometimes you might want to be able to just have that top bit sitting on a table or something. So the idea, for me at least, is to have all the essentials in the top bit and be able to take that off for tighter spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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