IronFilm Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 http://www.sounddevices.com/sl-2-faq/ I know what Santa will be bringing me for Christmas! Fascinating read of the FAQ, is Audio Ltd going to be bringing out a four channel SuperSlot receiver? That would really bring the fight to the Zaxcom Nova as an alternative to Nova with the Zaxcom MRX414 Wish it was stackable (such as with the existing AES accessory) but at least giving four extra channels of AES digital inputs was smart! (If a "SL-4" arrives that *is* stackable, could a SL-2 be put on top of it as the last addition?) Further unknowns: any hints at its price? And hints at its weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Interesting. Have I missed this before? Hope it really keep up the needed engagement. What is SuperSlot? SuperSlot™ is an electro-mechanical connection protocol, developed by Sound Devices, to simplify the interconnection of wireless audio transmitters and receivers with audio mixers and cameras. SuperSlot provides, power, audio, and control signals over a single multi-pin connection. SuperSlot-compatible products will be offered by multiple manufacturers, including wireless system manufacturers, camera manufacturers, and audio mixer manufacturers. Licensees The following companies are licensees of SuperSlot: Audio Limited Lectrosonics Sennheiser Sound Devices Wisycom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 My 633 has been working perfectly so I have been holding off upgrading to an 833 but I think I just found my reason to upgrade! I have three Lectro SRx receivers but usually only need four channels but it is nice that it has the extra AES so I could have my 3rd SR on their with the Lectro AES bottom plate when I need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Still no RF loop out huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mano Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Derek H said: Still no RF loop out huh? It seems to have an RF loop out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Display Name said: Interesting. Have I missed this before? Superslot has been around for a few years, quite a few brands and products are supporting it. Is the nearest thing to "a standard" that we have. Only Aaton and Sound Devices are supporting it with their recorders. (hopefully more brands will join? Although obviously I don't think Zaxcom ever will) 4 hours ago, Display Name said: The following companies are licensees of SuperSlot: Audio Limited Lectrosonics Sennheiser Sound Devices Wisycom Missing Sony? As I'm fairly certain their new Sony DWR-S03D supports SuperSlot. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1508647-REG/sony_dwr_s03d_slot_in_digital_wireless_receiver.html 1 hour ago, Derek H said: Still no RF loop out huh? Has it!! Paul Issacs confirmed it. Also can power your antenna: Quote Will it power my antennas? Yes. Both SMA antenna connectors provide 12 V bias power up to 500 mA. Is there built in RF filtering? Yes. The filtering is menu-selectable from the 8-Series user interface. The filter ranges available are 470-608 MHz, 608-770 MHz, or 770-960 MHz. Does the SL-2 have RF attenuators? There are attenuators at the input of the RF stage that can be enabled in the 8-Series menus. This is useful when experiencing heavy RF overload. 2 hours ago, codyman said: My 633 has been working perfectly so I have been holding off upgrading to an 833 but I think I just found my reason to upgrade! I have three Lectro SRx receivers but usually only need four channels but it is nice that it has the extra AES so I could have my 3rd SR on their with the Lectro AES bottom plate when I need it. Or drop in a quad channel receiver into the SL-2 for when you need more wireless 😉 Now if only a company would make a quad channel SuperSlot recevier! As the SL-2 supports it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 5:29 PM, IronFilm said: Or drop in a quad channel receiver into the SL-2 for when you need more wireless 😉 Now if only a company would make a quad channel SuperSlot recevier! As the SL-2 supports it. Fingers crossed for an SrD 4 channel receiver? two of those in the SL2 for an 833 Lectro "Nova"? TBD I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAB414 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Sorry guys, I'm clearly confused. Is the SL-6 compatible with the 8 series? What advantages do the SL-2 have over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, BAB414 said: Is the SL-6 compatible with the 8 series? You can use the SL-6 with Scorpio, not too sure if you can with the other 8 Series? The SL-2 form factor is better if an 833 is your main machine, SL-2 supports quad channel which SL-6 does not, which in a few more day's time we'll find out why that is a very handy feature to have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Maier Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Quote which in a few more day's time we'll find out why that is a very handy feature to have... What do you know?!? Spill the beans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 It is pretty widely known Wisycom is bringing out a quad channel Superslot receiver, just hasn't been officially announced yet. But it will be in 2020, this is the year. And if you read Sound Devices' FAQ, they mention how the SL-2 supports quad channel but the SL-6 didn't (even though it has been supported in the design specs for Superslot since day one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAB414 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, IronFilm said: It is pretty widely known Wisycom is bringing out a quad channel Superslot receiver, just hasn't been officially announced yet. But it will be in 2020, this is the year. And if you read Sound Devices' FAQ, they mention how the SL-2 supports quad channel but the SL-6 didn't (even though it has been supported in the design specs for Superslot since day one). But the SL-6 can give you 6 channels of wireless vs 4 with the SL-2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, BAB414 said: But the SL-6 can give you 6 channels of wireless vs 4 with the SL-2... Count again, the SL-2 (once quad Superslot RXs hit the market) can do 8 channels 😉 Plus it isn't all about sheer maximum numbers, I'm sure for many people an 833 with SL-2 and 2x A10 / SRb / whatever is a 4 channel package which can handle most of their work. I'd much rather carry an 833/SL-2 than a 688/SL-6 for most of what I do! And that is what I'll do until a quad Superslot receiver is released. Which then I'll get, to allow the SL-2 to grow out into higher capacity work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciproductions Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 hours ago, IronFilm said: It is pretty widely known Wisycom is bringing out a quad channel Superslot receiver, just hasn't been officially announced yet. But it will be in 2020, this is the year. And if you read Sound Devices' FAQ, they mention how the SL-2 supports quad channel but the SL-6 didn't (even though it has been supported in the design specs for Superslot since day one). Wait where did you find out Wisycom is bringing a quad channel receiver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.paterson Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 First deliveries of wysicom quad receiver in mid feb according to the uk dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Yup, might be a while until other European countries, let alone American and down under etc get shipments. ( @sciproductions does Australia even have a Wisycom distributor?? Edit: ah, I see in 17 July 2019 Wisycom got an Australian distributor, Raycom again! http://www.raycom.com.au/ ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey LaCroix Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 A quad slot Lectro RX would really simplify my setup so much. I really with that would happen. If Wisy can do it then Lectro I’m sure is figuring out how they can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Will SL2 have a set of analogue (or digital) O/Ps as well for use with recorders other than 8 series (for use with another recorder)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey LaCroix Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, daniel said: Will SL2 have a set of analogue (or digital) O/Ps as well for use with recorders other than 8 series (for use with another recorder)? I’d guess not. I assume the I/O will all be through a ribbon connector designed for the port on top of 8 series mixers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Trey LaCroix said: I’d guess not. I assume the I/O will all be through a ribbon connector designed for the port on top of 8 series mixers. I/O ribbon for 8 series was a given - just wondering if there's an additional set of O/Ps allowing box to be used with other recorders. It would be a bit er something to not have this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Isaacs Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, daniel said: Will SL2 have a set of analogue (or digital) O/Ps as well for use with recorders other than 8 series (for use with another recorder)? No. The SL-2 is powered by the 8-series via the interconnect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAB414 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 This is the first I'm hearing about quad supserslot RXs. Sounds fantastic. But how do you get 8 channels out of a quad receiver IronFilm? Are you talking about digital outputs or two quad receivers plugged into the SL-2? And with Lectro just coming out with their four channel receiver, I don't see them making the slot version any time soon IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, BAB414 said: But how do you get 8 channels out of a quad receiver IronFilm? Are you talking about digital outputs or two quad receivers plugged into the SL-2? Yes, the SL-2 is capable of up to 8 channels. 10 minutes ago, BAB414 said: And with Lectro just coming out with their four channel receiver, I don't see them making the slot version any time soon IMHO. Lectrosonics seems to think of the Lectrosonics DSQD as their successor to the Lectrosonics Venue2. And with the rocky launch of the Lectrosonics SRc then perhaps they might decide it is is time to update the SR series sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, IronFilm said: And with the rocky launch of the Lectrosonics SRc then perhaps they might decide it is is time to update the SR series sooner rather than later. But with the rocky launch of the Lectrosonics SRc then perhaps they might decide it is is time to update the SR series later rather than sooner. To make absolutely sure they get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 I still think slot receivers are dumb and tie the hands of the designers to an unnecessary form factor. It’s easy for Sound Devices to make a housing that’s essentially a simple power and audio distro and then market it as an amazing small form factor mix package but that pressures Lectro and other wireless companies into always using the arbitrary slot receiver form factor. What if it were the other way around and Lectro said to Sound Devices hey our user base is going to use our product with yours so it’s a package deal and you better deliver on your end but it has to fit in this box every time. Oh and you better double your channel count again and it needs to get better range than last years model and be wideband. Stupid. I’m not a Zaxcom wireless user but I think they were right years ago when they said no we’re not making a slot receiver because we want to do more with our product than that form factor allows. (Yes I know they eventually made a slot receiver. It could only receive a single stereo carrier which is why no one bought it BUT it did exactly what the slot mount design is for which is put in a camera for a two channel mix). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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