Erob Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Interesting design and approach. Curious what others think and if anyone is going to hop on the early bandwagon. I’m intrigued to say the least. https://filmdevices.com/product/rack-n-bag-medium/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tresch Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 I love the vibe of this company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erob Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 They had a good presentation during the sound summit, the price is what gets me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanieldH Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Seems to be a similar approach to the Aaton cheese plate. This might have potential at least for good weather situations. Depending on where you are, you might want to see where you step though. I like the phone holder 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tresch Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 They could add a spigot holder. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAB414 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Seems very similar to the Mixer Cage (and more expensive): https://www.ecwid.com/store/mixercage/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tresch Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 But FD looks more modular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Nicely made but too much stuff mounted too far out from the body for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 6 hours ago, DanieldH said: This might have potential at least for good weather situations. They've got a cover for if you're in a bit of a drizzle: 5 hours ago, Philip Perkins said: Nicely made but too much stuff mounted too far out from the body for me. That's true! The further out weight is placed, the greater the strain on your body. However I do like the fold down design for wireless which has info displayed on the side rather than top mounted displays (such as Lectro SR receivers). Perhaps a good design for people who are not wearing their bag more often than they are. I like too the clamp for positioning your phone on the side like that. But the negatives I see: 1)Much higher cost than normal 2) Heavier than normal I won't be getting one in the near future. But I applaud any new innovation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Hi, I'm Ken from Film Devices. Glad to see you are talking about my new sound rack/bag. It is lighter than you would think due to the carbon fiber. The large unit weighs 4lbs 6oz with the outer shell and the shoulder strap. Been been pretty busy and haven't weighed the small one yet, probably 3lbs. There have been a few comments on the price being a bit high. It is hand made with expensive carbon fiber and aircraft grade aluminum. As a sound person I spend $10-25K for the equipment in my bag. For a premium product that will allow me for the first time to get at all my cables, have everything secure, slide my battery in with one hand, and convert to a desk console, it is worth it. You can see a video of it here: Also wanted to mention that we have a 1lb 6oz travel boom pole kit in aluminum and carbon fiber. It includes pole, boom pole holder, and a Matthew Mini Grip Head. It fits into carry-on. The pole size is 20" - 66". Perfect for a sit down interview. It is selling for $150. Unfortunately it has been very popular and the carbon fiber version is sold out. We should have stock by July. The aluminum version for $125 is available. You can see more items at our website: filmdevices.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 When in its the closed position with the outer shell on, the swing out device shelf can be closed, open, or slightly tilted. The ergonomics are almost identical to a conventional bag. It just very configurable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate C Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Ken, first off congratulations on what looks like a really well thought out idea to product. While I’m not in the market for one of your cages at the moment, I can see so many ways how this can work or be customised to work on the cart or insert mode. Really like the rods approach, that I imagine allows adjustment of the size of the sections and pivoting of panels. It kind of reminds of a Well built up camera. This is something I’ve tried to work into my cart but not as eloquently as you sir. All the best and cheers Nate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 6 hours ago, KenMartini said: Hi, I'm Ken from Film Devices. Glad to see you are talking about my new sound rack/bag. It is lighter than you would think due to the carbon fiber. The large unit weighs 4lbs 6oz with the outer shell and the shoulder strap. Been been pretty busy and haven't weighed the small one yet, probably 3lbs. There have been a few comments on the price being a bit high. It is hand made with expensive carbon fiber and aircraft grade aluminum. As a sound person I spend $10-25K for the equipment in my bag. For a premium product that will allow me for the first time to get at all my cables, have everything secure, slide my battery in with one hand, and convert to a desk console, it is worth it. You can see a video of it here: Also wanted to mention that we have a 1lb 6oz travel boom pole kit in aluminum and carbon fiber. It includes pole, boom pole holder, and a Matthew Mini Grip Head. It fits into carry-on. The pole size is 20" - 66". Perfect for a sit down interview. It is selling for $150. Unfortunately it has been very popular and the carbon fiber version is sold out. We should have stock by July. The aluminum version for $125 is available. You can see more items at our website: filmdevices.com Please consider putting the lock-knob for your boom older on the other side. On the side you have it the grip head will loosen as the boom sags due to weight, temp or wind. As every grip knows, if you set a grip head with the lock knob on the right (as you face the set) it will tighten as the rig sags--a much better outcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmac Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 I agree that the picture shows it oriented the “wrong” way, but the holder can be easily removed from the clamp and reoriented the “correct” way, as you suggest. I have bought stage mic stands from well respected brands that have the boom arm oriented incorrectly, and always change to prevent the slow motion dive of a heavy mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osa Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 I may be wrong but isnt it an optical illusion because of the way the pole is laying “backwards” relative to how it lays in the mount? In the photo it looks correct to me since the cradle portion where the boom pole lays is photo right and the top catch is photo left, putting the wing nut on the right side...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 42 minutes ago, osa said: I may be wrong but isnt it an optical illusion because of the way the pole is laying “backwards” relative to how it lays in the mount? In the photo it looks correct to me since the cradle portion where the boom pole lays is photo right and the top catch is photo left, putting the wing nut on the right side...? According to the photo the tightening handle is on the right which is "self tightening". The boom pole holder has the correct orientation. It can be a little confusing not seeing it on a C-stand fully mounted. 2 hours ago, Philip Perkins said: Please consider putting the lock-knob for your boom older on the other side. On the side you have it the grip head will loosen as the boom sags due to weight, temp or wind. As every grip knows, if you set a grip head with the lock knob on the right (as you face the set) it will tighten as the rig sags--a much better outcome! According to the photo the tightening handle is on the right which is "self tightening". The boom pole holder has the correct orientation. It can be a little confusing not seeing it on a C-stand fully mounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 20 hours ago, Philip Perkins said: Nicely made but too much stuff mounted too far out from the body for me. When using in the bag mode it is just like any other bag. Everything is operated from the front. You do however have the option of lowering the top flap and swinging out the top tier for a better view of wireless with front controls. I operated it on a harness on several shoots and it was not awkward at all with the top tier open and the wings folded in. In fact it was my best experience so far because I could finally see my front control radios which I have not been able to do with my conventional bags. I also found that If the weather was good I did not need the outer shell. This made it lighter and gave me full access to everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Johnson Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Well done Ken I think this is a brilliant idea and as a cart mixer and not bag mixer I see so many uses incorporating it into a cart so it can be released and used as a breakaway rig. You could have your backup recorder in it and use on a smaller cart or on an insert vehicle. Its not just a bag rig IMO. It looks beautifully made and I think the price is fair as having built and purchased a few carts and rigs etc the best engineered ones always cost more. I look forward to purchasing one when they are released. What size would you recommend for a Nomad/RX12 system? Thanks Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 16 hours ago, IronFilm said: They've got a cover for if you're in a bit of a drizzle: That's true! The further out weight is placed, the greater the strain on your body. However I do like the fold down design for wireless which has info displayed on the side rather than top mounted displays (such as Lectro SR receivers). Perhaps a good design for people who are not wearing their bag more often than they are. I like too the clamp for positioning your phone on the side like that. But the negatives I see: 1)Much higher cost than normal 2) Heavier than normal I won't be getting one in the near future. But I applaud any new innovation! Orca OR-334 6.38lb Large Rack-N-Bag with outer shell and strap 4.3lbs Ours is 1/3rd lighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, KenMartini said: According to the photo the tightening handle is on the right which is "self tightening". The boom pole holder has the correct orientation. It can be a little confusing not seeing it on a C-stand fully mounted. According to the photo the tightening handle is on the right which is "self tightening". The boom pole holder has the correct orientation. It can be a little confusing not seeing it on a C-stand fully mounted. In that case well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanpeds Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 I think this is a great design and the price isn’t bad either. I have a custom Protogear bag for my Cantar Mini and that was about $950. If the item works for your need and is well built than I have no problem with paying for it. ken, have you thought about adding versions that would work with the X3 and X3 Mini? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 hours ago, ryanpeds said: I think this is a great design and the price isn’t bad either. I have a custom Protogear bag for my Cantar Mini and that was about $950. If the item works for your need and is well built than I have no problem with paying for it. ken, have you thought about adding versions that would work with the X3 and X3 Mini? Ryan, looks like the mini may fit on the top deck, but I would have to figure out where the radios go. I could probably design a series just for them where the unit is on the first tier on a slide out. If I had enough pre-orders I could design 2 sizes and do a short run. If it did not have enough orders it would be too much of a financial gamble. The Aatons were designed for carts, so a challenge to do a work around for a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erob Posted May 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Ken, is one of the bds systems included with the bag? Or are they a separate add on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Erob said: Ken, is one of the bds systems included with the bag? Or are they a separate add on? If you are referring to the power distro, no. It is an option. We designed the battery sled and Audioroot has customized their distro to match. We are manufacturing our own cables. We sell it as a package that includes distro, sled with battery cup, and 5 cables. The distro is available in 2 sizes. Go to our website https://filmdevices.com/ to see pricing. We are including the $95 carbon fiber handle as a gift for pre-orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMartini Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 12:34 PM, Tony Johnson said: Well done Ken I think this is a brilliant idea and as a cart mixer and not bag mixer I see so many uses incorporating it into a cart so it can be released and used as a breakaway rig. You could have your backup recorder in it and use on a smaller cart or on an insert vehicle. Its not just a bag rig IMO. It looks beautifully made and I think the price is fair as having built and purchased a few carts and rigs etc the best engineered ones always cost more. I look forward to purchasing one when they are released. What size would you recommend for a Nomad/RX12 system? Thanks Tony Tony, The medium would fit very snugly. All the specs will soon be on our website. On 5/2/2020 at 8:40 PM, IronFilm said: They've got a cover for if you're in a bit of a drizzle: That's true! The further out weight is placed, the greater the strain on your body. However I do like the fold down design for wireless which has info displayed on the side rather than top mounted displays (such as Lectro SR receivers). Perhaps a good design for people who are not wearing their bag more often than they are. I like too the clamp for positioning your phone on the side like that. But the negatives I see: 1)Much higher cost than normal 2) Heavier than normal I won't be getting one in the near future. But I applaud any new innovation! Weighs the same as other bags due to the carbon fiber construction. Full specs will soon be available at https://filmdevices.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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