Ty Ford Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgoodin Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 Looks a bit like an EV 635A Dynamic Cardioid. Can't see the shockmount though. Cavett used those on stands before they went to articulated booms. Probably the long-handle version of the 635A in a EV Spyder shockmount.. -----Courtney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMC Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 I still have two of those and they still work. Though the bottom one was frozen under two inches of ice in the trunk of my 1964 Spyder Corvair for a brief time and probably isn't within specs anymore. I painted these black years ago to use as props. I originally used them when i was shooting news in the early 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 FWIW, the EV 635A 'sportscaster' mic is a dynamic 'Omni'. The same capsule was used in the 1st gen RE-50 TV reporter's H/H mic.. which still gets more airtime than Seinfeld reruns. The 635 had a relatively low sensitivity (output), but was pretty much indestructible.. aka, "Buchanan Hammer". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rillie Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 Maybe EV cardioid RE15s/? More reach than a 635, which was often used much closer than those overheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgoodin Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim Rillie said: Maybe EV cardioid RE15s/? More reach than a 635, which was often used much closer than those overheads. Yeah Jim, I think you are right it was an EV Cardioid RE15. When you look at a better picture you can see the cardioid vent holes on side of the mic head that the 635A omni did not have. Looks like an EV 307 Spyder shockmount Here is a better picture with Mohamad Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourtelot Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 Wow, more importantly, look at the two people in Mr. Goodin's photo. Wow! That was a time. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineli Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 Very nice quizz, very nice clues and very nice pictures ! Team work. Thank you for this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricphoto Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 For reference here's a 635a for sale in Portland with clearer pics: https://portland.craigslist.org/nco/msg/d/garibaldi-electro-voice-ev-635a/7131560858.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAB414 Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 What mic is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgoodin Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 White House Communications has been using Shure SM56 or SM57s with the A2WS foam windscreen for decades. It's ther Go-To mic. Only the Blowhard in front changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 And an A55M shock mount. Basically the same combo used today by the White House Press Core since the SM57/58 was released in the mid-sixties. The 57 is also the go-to snare drum mic for many folks in the music/sound industry. Great on guitar amps as well, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Rick Reineke said: And an A55M shock mount. Basically the same combo used today by the White House Press Core since the SM57/58 was released in the mid-sixties. The 57 is also the go-to snare drum mic for most folks in the music/sound industry. Great on guitar amps as well, The former is still true, the latter mostly not, at least for recording. Many better choices now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Philip Perkins said: The former is still true, the latter mostly not, at least for recording. Many better choices now. Is a Royer R-121 and SM57 combo no longer a common(ish) thing? Royer even makes a little mount to make it easier to position and align phase with those two mics: And here's some PR stuff from Royer's site that mentions SM57s (and some other mics in addition to their own): Recording Electric Guitar But really, I'm hardly ever in recording studios now. So this isn't a challenge, it's a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 8:45 AM, PMC said: I still have two of those and they still work. Though the bottom one was frozen under two inches of ice in the trunk of my 1964 Spyder Corvair for a brief time and probably isn't within specs anymore. I hope you kept the '64 Corvair all these years too! That was the best year (fixed the handling finally) and the Spyder's turbo H6 was pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, codyman said: I hope you kept the '64 Corvair all these years too! That was the best year (fixed the handling finally) and the Spyder's turbo H6 was pretty sweet. Unsafe at any (sound) speed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, Rich Reilly said: Unsafe at any (sound) speed! Sadly sound is still unsafe at any speed in 2020 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourtelot Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 On 6/6/2020 at 10:50 AM, Philip Perkins said: The former is still true, the latter mostly not, at least for recording. Many better choices now. I, for one, still think a 57 sounds great as a top mic on a taut snare drum. Lots of crack! And pretty immune to drum-stick hits as well. Go ahead and put your U47 up there. I dare you. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmRR Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, tourtelot said: I, for one, still think a 57 sounds great as a top mic on a taut snare drum. Lots of crack! And pretty immune to drum-stick hits as well. Go ahead and put your U47 up there. I dare you. D. I've come to the inescapable conclusion that it is a sound that is expected in some situations, regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgoodin Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 2:05 PM, BAB414 said: What mic is this? You know in the past (1982) they used to use 3 Shure SM57s in windscreens on the Presidential Lecturn (See Picture Below) Now they are down to 1. Is it budget cuts or are they just now comfortable that these dynamic mics never fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmRR Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, cmgoodin said: You know in the past (1982) they used to use 3 Shure SM57s in windscreens on the Presidential Lecturn (See Picture Below) Now they are down to 1. Is it budget cuts or are they just now comfortable that these dynamic mics never fail. It may have to do with the requirements of the press splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 I do dare--I use Schoeps on snare tops, sometimes 421. 57= "papery". OK if there is no other choice. Rim clips are the answer to keeping mics out of harms way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Immoral Mr Teas Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 I kind of dared too several years back - 8040s in my case. Crashing whilst in HK at my friend's who played lead guitar for Jacky Cheung: asked to record a jam session knowing I had some field recording gear with me ended up using 8040s on toms or snare after the drummer - a merchant banker in day job - asked how much they cost and said, "If I hit them I'll just replace them ... " Couldn't argue with that and unfortunately he didn't have to buy me any new ones ... Second richest drummer I ever worked with and the absolutely least well known: decent enough though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just to go there, a Schoeps or an 8040 are a very different case than a 47. I only mention on account of the “I dare“ proclamations. The 121/122 and 57 combo is still pretty widely used on guitar cabs. For snare, I’ll use a 57 on the bottom head, but for top I like an EV 468. If that doesn’t work, a 57 to the shell and no top. I record full bands less and less then days, however, so take it with a grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgoodin Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, EmRR said: It may have to do with the requirements of the press splits. No, the 3 or later 2, mics were summed and fed to Press Box distro amps for the Media Pool Feeds. This has been done since the mid 60s. White house communications did this to prevent the forest of individual mics by all the media. And to provide backup in case there was a mic failure. That almost never happened since these mics are dynamic and have no power requirements or active components and the only failures came from broken cables or Rain damage. There are many manufacturers of Press Boxes now but Opamp Labs had been making them since the late 60s https://www.opamplabs.com/products/audio-video-network-distribution-press-feed-mult-box/va-32-video-audio-press-feed.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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