Nachosgrande Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 I'm going to be buying one mic at a time as I build up a collection for short films and documentaries (50% indoor, 50% outdoor). I have spent time with both, but only in their proper settings, 8060 outdoors and 50 indoors. Absolutely love them both and find them easy to work with, although I haven't cut them together to hear if they match well. If you had to survive with only one for a couple months before you buy the next, which would it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Karlsson Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 I suspect this will be along thread of people suggesting one or the other, based on their personal preference. Then you will likely also see others suggesting something else, like a 4017 or CMIT, because they tend work good for both interior and exterior, then others will argue against that .... etc. In the end you will of course need to make a decision yourself. Based on your own experience with those two mics that you already like, which one would you pick if you had to choose only one to bring for a job tomorrow morning? Why not buy one and rent the other one as needed until you can afford to buy. Personally, I would feel “naked” going on any job with just one mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenannymoh Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 8060 is more versatile. But I would buy the 50 first for mostly scripted work... I think you can 'cheat' your shotgun mics a bit more often with a less expensive mic (in a pinch...it's not ideal) but there is no faking your clean indoor dialogue. If i was doing more doc work, I'd buy the 8060 first. But as Karlsson said, going into any job with only 1 mic is a problem (and unprofessional IMHO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Waelder Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 It's really an impossible choice; you would want to be prepared with at least one of each type on any assignment. But it's often possible to get excellent results with professional gear even using it outside its normal comfort zone. All The President's Men was recorded almost entirely with a Sennheiser 805/815 shotgun, even the interior scenes. Chris McLaughlin preferred the long shotgun and Jim Webb often deferred to his boom operator in microphone choice. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haifai Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Rent both, put them on a stereo mount indoor and outdoor, test and decide... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Ask 100 soundies and you will get 200 answers 🙂 All I can say that I never heard an interference tube microphone with less indoor interference tube artifacts like the 8060. But that's not really an answer to your question ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Mungo said: All I can say that I never heard an interference tube microphone with less indoor interference tube artifacts like the 8060. Just out of curiosity: is among the microphones you heard with intereference tube a 4017? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Constantin said: Just out of curiosity: is among the microphones you heard with intereference tube a 4017? No, I must admit that I never worked with it. I got to know a lot Sennys, Schoeps, Rodes and some semi-pro AT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourtelot Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Constantin said: Just out of curiosity: is among the microphones you heard with intereference tube a 4017? Or the Sanken CS3e? A brilliant reach on stage and so forth (not so great in a tile bathroom but what interference tube is)? Yes, though. Two different tools, both absolutely necessary. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachosgrande Posted September 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Thank you all for taking the time to respond. Sounds like the correct answer is get both mics at an absolute minimum. I just sold a 416 to put towards one, it was just useless in small, echoey rooms, and I liked it outside, but really preferred the 8060 I tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey LaCroix Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 8060 has become my go to EXT mic. Used to be a CMIT but felt it let too much in sometimes. Like the pattern and sound a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenLac Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 I'll give you a bunch of answers/opinions that don't directly address your main question: * They're two very different beasts, so which one is more 'versatile' doesn't really apply. * That being said, if I'm faced with a mic/situation mismatch, I'd rather work with a interference-tube mic indoors than a super-cardiod outdoors. * I adore the sound my 8060, but I find it has too much low-end for even moderate amounts of wind. I really need to get the cut attachment. * Most of my work is either documentary or corporate, single subject or distance. Usually I have the luxury of aiming a shotgun just right when it's above a single interview subject, but it is indeed a luxury. I'd hate to have to try to split actors in-close for a cinema project with the 8060. However, for wide shots I find it has a lot of presence even at distance. * So, to answer slightly more directly: I'm always operating on a shoe-string, with a minimal kit, and I only own one boom mic, and that's the 8060. It gets me by for my low-budget close work where something like a 50 would sound marginally better. When I feel the project calls for it (a scripted commercial indoors, for example, or a doc with a decent budget) I'll rent the industry-standard Schoeps MK41. * And just for yucks I'll throw in that I tried the MKH 8050 for scripted, hoping it would be a Schoeps killer, and I was quite disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, tourtelot said: Or the Sanken CS3e? A brilliant reach on stage and so forth (not so great in a tile bathroom but what interference tube is)? Well, that’s why I was curious about his experience with the 4017. I personally believe that the 4017 indeed is the most versatile mic as it‘ll still sound very good indoors where other tubes sound like crap already. But I also have next to no experience with any Sennheiser mic (mostly because I generally don’t like their sound as much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey LaCroix Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Constantin said: Well, that’s why I was curious about his experience with the 4017. I personally believe that the 4017 indeed is the most versatile mic as it‘ll still sound very good indoors where other tubes sound like crap already. But I also have next to no experience with any Sennheiser mic (mostly because I generally don’t like their sound as much) This is how I feel about the 8060. It sounds so much better indoors than the previous generation of interference tube mics. Boomed for somebody starting out that ONLY used a 416 or 816. indoors and out. Grew to hate the sound of a 416 indoors (except for very nice sounding stages) and didn't feel the 60 faired much better. Granted the 8060 doesn't sound like a Schoeps indoors but much less boomy and muddy when faced with tough reflections. When I have boomed with the 4017 I felt it behaved similar. Off topic: Constantine, I know you used to use a Super-CMIT pretty regularly. How did you find it indoors? Did the Mode 1 setting make it sound nicer indoors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Ford Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Are you talking about an MKH 50 or an MKH 8050? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachosgrande Posted September 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 6:33 PM, Ty Ford said: Are you talking about an MKH 50 or an MKH 8050? If this question is for me then the answer is MKH 50. Haven't had the pleasure of testing out the 8050. If it's even in the same ballpark as the 50 then it's an amazing mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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