simon forbes Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Hi Folks, Unusually for me, a location recordist, I've been booming by hand in a studio a bit lately and I'm wondering about swapping the rycote zeppelin I normally use, with the foam windshield that came with my MKH414 when I bought it but still use the suspension mount from the zeppelin. It seems like you'd need to squash the foam or modify it to get it into the cradle though. I don't anticipate needing this capability a lot going forward, so probably wouldn't buy a whole different mount that accommodates the foam thingy, but I'd be willing to modify it to suit if there's a way that folks have found successful? All the best Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanieldH Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 I am not sure, what setup you have. I'd suggest you post a foto or a model number, but if I understand correctly: you can make a slit in the foam of your 416(?) where the front lyre (or rubber ring suspended clip?) fits. BTW, the original Sennheiser foams start to crumble at some point and there are cheap 3rd party foams that work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 If your suspension is covering any part of the interference tube, you have the wrong suspension. That being said, I've seen people cut a slit in the foam to accomodate the mount, but it would depend on which mount system to are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon forbes Posted June 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 It's this kind of mount. Says it's compatible with the mic. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilemike Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 You can move the Lyres closer together so they don’t cover up the interference tube and allow the foam to be used. -Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanieldH Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Covering the interference slits was never a great idea, but industry standard maybe for decades, as only (?) Rycote and Sennheiser provided "Zeppelins" back in the days with clips suspended on rubber rings that needed to cover some slits and that was not a deal breaker for 416 operation. Most Zeppelins in ENG and film school kits I came across in the 2000s had a crumbling foam, permanently on the mic, with either clips or lyres at the slits for quick outdoor indoor changes. Handling noise and zeppelin resonances included. The 416 is a heavy beast after all. The way Simon mounts it hardly covers the slits but a foam with a slit won't cover complety. I'd guess, either way may not be perfect, but not that relevant. And yes, there are quite relevant reasons to use a different shotgun and a different wind protection, today. However, Simon, you did not ask where to throw money at, but you might want to check out / ask your dealer, if using the stiffer grey lyres or a duo lyre at the end of the mic would prevent the foam hitting the rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osa Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 22 hours ago, Mobilemike said: You can move the Lyres closer together so they don’t cover up the interference tube and allow the foam to be used. -Mike Yep try moving the front lyre clip to here just behind interference slots as those look like the newer clips, or worst-case you can replace with heavy duty lyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourtelot Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 We used to have a sacrificial foam screen that we cut a slot in with a razor blade so that the lyre clip could slip inside and grab the mic. It would mean buying said sacrifice but it totally works. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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