AR Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 After working with the Rycote Lyre microphone suspension system for a while, has anyone changed their opinion of or the ways they work with the system? I was skeptical. It looked overly complicated, fragile and more difficult to maintain than rubber suspension mounts, including rubber bands. What I have found is that it is more quiet than any suspension I have used. In the end, that's all that really counts, right? I now use the INV 6 and INV 7 as well as the Windjammer kit for Schoeps mic systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I use an INV 7 with my CMC6/41 all the time, and I'm extremely happy with the results. I have found that on occasions where the handling noise seems louder than normal, a slight adjustment to where the clips are on the mic, either increasing or decreasing the tension on the lyres takes care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Deutscher Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I've used the INV 6 and 7 with the Schoeps mics and have had great success. With the CMC641, I usually put it in the INV 7 with a foam windscreen for indoor work and an INV 6 with a BBG on the end for EXT work. No handling noise whatsoever. With my CMC441 Blue Dot, it's a bit more sensitive so I have to use my PSC Universal Mount for it. Handling a Schoeps definitely takes a steady hand/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martijn scholte Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 i use cinela and love those http://www.cinela.fr/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Not using it with a Schoeps, but I use it with my 8040 and it works fine. A lot of people felt the 8040 is a lot more sensitive than the Schoeps to handling noise. I've also used it for short shotguns etc and it worked fine. I don't have anything like a GVC in my kit. Maybe you are experiencing forces on the mount that I have not encountered. I would say mine is black plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I also switched all my mounts to the INV7. My mk41 are oriented the same way as what Jeff had posted, except that my Neutrik is straight w/ the thinner mic cables. Works a lot better than my K-teks. I've also mounted my AT4073a, which is known to be one of the hottest and most sensitive microphone that I've worked with, in the INV7 and what a different from my KSSM! Must be the boom operation. The KSSM is a shock mount, not a suspension mount. I think a better comparison would be with the K-GPS and the shorter version, the K-GPSS. Back in my sound effects recording days, I had no problems putting a Schoeps in a K-GPSS on a magic arm mounted to Ford GT with a professional driver taking turns at 70MPH on a track, and doing all kinds of skids and drifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Been using Invision 7s for my new CMITs. It's great! Been using the Rycote lyre system for my 50s for a while (in the zepp too) and have no complaints of any kind. Only noises I have heard were not as a result of the mount design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan H. Chang Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 The KSSM is a shock mount, not a suspension mount. I think a better comparison would be with the K-GPS and the shorter version, the K-GPSS. Back in my sound effects recording days, I had no problems putting a Schoeps in a K-GPSS on a magic arm mounted to Ford GT with a professional driver taking turns at 70MPH on a track, and doing all kinds of skids and drifts. After taking a look again between the KGPS and the KSSM, I believe you're right in pointing out that the KSSM is more of a shockmount than an actual suspension system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Weaver Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The invision system works fantastic on my CMIT and my 50's. Epic fail on the CMC Schoeps and the 8040s. Mcdonald/PSC mount seems to be much better for CMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Hoppe Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I use the InVision INV 7HG MKIII with both the CMIT and the CMC6/MK41 combo and have had no issues at all. Link here http://www.rycote.com/products/shock-mounts-suspension/invision-broadcast-film/invision-inv-7hg-mkiii/ Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I use the InVision INV 7HG MKIII with both the CMIT and the CMC6/MK41 combo and have had no issues at all. Link here http://www.rycote.com/products/shock-mounts-suspension/invision-broadcast-film/invision-inv-7hg-mkiii/ Marc Yep I use the same one and I have no issues. Keeping in mind I find the cmit a bit more forgiving vs the 641. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Try swapping the rear lyre with the DPA special ( red ) super soft lyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I believe they are green lyers now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 The KGPSS or Nautilus work the best for me with this Schoeps setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Weaver Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Send me one Dave! I'll check it out and sing it's praises if it does the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I use the Suspenders (which are the actual suspension element in the K-GPS units) in several different mounts, including the standard Rycote hoops. For me, they work great with Schoeps. Hint, I use an O-ring on the mic body if it is prone to sliding in the Suspenders with aggressive movement. I also use an O-ring to keep a foam windshield from coming off the mic too easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Weaver Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I use the Suspenders (which are the actual suspension element in the K-GPS units) in several different mounts, including the standard Rycote hoops. For me, they work great with Schoeps. Hint, I use an O-ring on the mic body if it is prone to sliding in the Suspenders with aggressive movement. I also use an O-ring to keep a foam windshield from coming off the mic too easily. I use the schoeps windscreen and it doesn't seem to move, however the xlr has about a 16th of an inch give to it and i think the cable connecter might be moving around. I'm going to try putting a rubber grommet there and see if that helps. I suspect I am probably rehashing an old topic here. I'm not the first guy to try to use one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I use the schoeps windscreen and it doesn't seem to move, however the xlr has about a 16th of an inch give to it and i think the cable connecter might be moving around. I'm going to try putting a rubber grommet there and see if that helps. I suspect I am probably rehashing an old topic here. I'm not the first guy to try to use one of these. It sounds like the screws holding the Schoeps body and/or, the XLR connector, may need (careful) tightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I use inv7 with a schoeps cmc641 and it works really well. I'm happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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