stevelampen Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Noted way below on this thread the suggestion that you can use a shielded twisted pair instead of starquad and that means just one wire into each pin. If you have a really good balanced line pair of wires, you can approach starquad performance (in terms of noise rejection) but I would suspect that a few of you don't know how starquad works. At the risk of writing a long post, anyone interested? Anyone really care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Anderson Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Boisvert Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I'd definitely be interested. I certainly don't know enough about cables. But start a new thread. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Boisvert Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Hi Steve, May I suggest that you identify yourself (either in your signature or in a custom title) as a Belden Product Line Manager so that everyone knows the source of the information you provide. I'm sure I'm not the only one here to be pleased to have another manufacturer add to the great JWsound resource. Welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleueblancrouge Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Three more associated tidbits: 3) The Remote Audio connectors will take up to 4.8mm cables. To accomodate cables of this diameter, an internal knockout bushing and the end boot must be removed (easy to do). Glen, i'm not a happy camper. i had no idea about this ability. i bought 2 connectors from Trew Toronto and when i found the ends too small in diameter i sent them back. even after i had a conversation with the sales guys. i then went to Markertek and bought 2 Rean connectors. i could have avoided the shipping that cost 7 times the price of both connectors had i been told i could take apart the end and took out the bushing from the Trew connectors. this was a waist of time and money that could have been avoided. Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Life is like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvamos Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hey, I just bought some mogami cable from trew as well. Kinda having difficulty matching the tiny xlr and matching tiny cable to marry an xlr connector. Anybody got any suggestions on reinforcing it at the boot? The quad pair canare is nice stuff too. I like this kind of true quality cable. Josh Vamos ImagesInSound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hey, I just bought some mogami cable from trew as well. Kinda having difficulty matching the tiny xlr and matching tiny cable to marry an xlr connector. Anybody got any suggestions on reinforcing it at the boot? The quad pair canare is nice stuff too. I like this kind of true quality cable. Josh Vamos ImagesInSound May or may not help but a 2-3" piece of shrink tubing covering the boot and part of the cable might prevent issues. Although I've never felt the need to do that on the many cable assemblys I've built with TA connectors. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvamos Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Eric, Thanks for the reply. I just don't like the fact that I can see inside the connector around the cable, at the boot (as the cable isn't tightly fitted). I guess you're right though, the fit comes from the solder and the clamping of the cable. I just need to find somewhere that sells shrink cable in my area or else it's another trip out. Thanks, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Eric, Thanks for the reply. I just don't like the fact that I can see inside the connector around the cable, at the boot (as the cable isn't tightly fitted). I guess you're right though, the fit comes from the solder and the clamping of the cable. I just need to find somewhere that sells shrink cable in my area or else it's another trip out. Thanks, Josh Don't know where you are but Radio Shack, Home Depot, Harbor Freight all carry shrink tubing if that helps. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvamos Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 The price of shrink tube there is a bit pricey, as it's just an assorted pack for 12.00$CND. I'll check home depot or Sayal in Burlington, ON. They have loads of that stuff. I'm sure I'll find something. Thanks, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Josh, Google A-1 Parts, in Toronto on North Queen (south Etobicoke, near Sherway Mall) They have a large variety and it is pretty cheap. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 " suggestions on reinforcing it at the boot? " shrink wrap " I can see inside the connector around the cable, at the boot (as the cable isn't tightly fitted) " multiple layers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masaki Hatsui Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 It seems like now they make a 5 pin version. http://www2.neutrik....C-B_detail.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i ordered a few some weeks back. expected delivery is 21st october, though ill be away until december so wont be able to check them out until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryF Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 It's stupid big because it covers and protects the entire TA connector as well as the connector housing on the transmitter. Except for the connector, the rest of the SM series transmitters is splash proof . The boot is the only way to splash proof that remaining open connection. The boot is made for us by a specialty outfit in a vinyl dipping process. I am not aware of a similar boot from anyone else. If a larger manufacturer made a better one, we'd get out of the stupid big boot business in a second. Cheers, Larry F The version with the boot, is that made for the Lectro Sm transmitters? I never used the boot Lectro supplied because I thought it was stupid big. If these are nice, I'll have to re-solder all of my mics, which might send me over the edge frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 The boots on the Rean are nice, but only meant to fit over the panel mount connector. They will not fit over the connector housing on an SM, so the lectro boot is still the only boot I know of that works with the SM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Glad to see Rean is making 5-pin TA-compatible parts now too. I had requested them at least a year ago and it did not seem likely to happen at the time. I do have a few of the 3-pin versions in use for various mixer in/out cables. Mostly aux audio sends, nothing mission critical. I like them, they assemble easier since they just screw together and there is no crimping. I'm not entirely sure the strain relief is any better in the real world than the Switchcraft crimp design. I would love to see a third party do stress testing on each and report back... (hint) I've found that the plastic bits melt easier than the Switchcraft, and the solder cups are more fragile and do not stand up to as much heat, and bend easily. TA3's can be the same though.. (what's the deal with REAN anyway? Neutrik's Chinese cousin?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 ...And now for something completely different! Looks like the same internals as the other SC TAs but with a metal shell and no rubber strain relief. They also have those metal-coil type strain relief parts available for it as well. http://www.switchcraft.com/Documents/NPB_591-_Shielded_Tini_QG.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryF Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Some REAN 5 pins have been requested and we will give them a good yank. Best, Larry F Lectro [snip] I like them, they assemble easier since they just screw together and there is no crimping. I'm not entirely sure the strain relief is any better in the real world than the Switchcraft crimp design. I would love to see a third party do stress testing on each and report back... (hint) [snip] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHall Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I had a not terribly funny thing happen involving the REAN mini 3-pin XLR female plugged into my 744T. The release button snapped off, making it a challenge to get the plug out of the jack. I was wondering if there have been any similar quality experiences about the REAN connectors (I had -- perhaps erroneously -- assumed that REAN, being a division of Neutrik, would have similar build quality). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I had a not terribly funny thing happen involving the REAN mini 3-pin XLR female plugged into my 744T. The release button snapped off, making it a challenge to get the plug out of the jack. I was wondering if there have been any similar quality experiences about the REAN connectors (I had -- perhaps erroneously -- assumed that REAN, being a division of Neutrik, would have similar build quality). FWIW: I've made dozens of Rean TA3 connecting cables for many on this group and have never had any bad feedback about them. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 No one complains about your work because they know you can shoot the eye out of a bird flying FWIW: I've made dozens of Rean TA3 connecting cables for many on this group and have never had any bad feedback about them. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 <you can shoot the eye out of a bird flying> Eric is really a master marksman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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