Simon Paine Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I've been using 4 lectro 411 receivers with my 442 for the past couple of weeks. Strange thing happened today and yesterday. I noticed late in the day, i had to slowly keep turning up the gain on my mixer to get a decent level from the receivers. I kept turning them up until finaly i was maxed out. I went into the menu settings, and adjusted the output level, and as soon as i moved it up or down, the gain level snapped back to normal. Anyone else have this happen to them ? Since it only seems to happen later in the day, could it be a build up of temperature ? (i'm working a reality gig, so the bag stays on for 10-11 hours) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffrey Colon Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Reality TV... wearing out gear and people for around ten years now... Nothing personal... It is highly unlikely the recievers would all exhibit the same diminished output, at the same time...Maybe it's the mixers output... I find that I am MAXED OUT after 10-11 hours of that stuff... Maybe your gear is showing compassion... something sadly lacking in "Reality"... Jeff C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Paine Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi Jeff, Sorry for not being more clear, they don't all go down at the same time, but i have heard it happen to more then one unit, at different occasions. But changing the output level on the receiver seems to jolt it back to it's normal setting.I'm still baffled by this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffrey Colon Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi Simon, Just last week I put a weak NP1 in the bag and my 411recievers did some strange things...not levels, but the 411's were asking to check frequency; I have a couple 195's and they were fine... just a guess, maybe it's the battery(s) powering the bag. On this same sort of subject, A transmitter with a dying battery can go wideband and wreak havok as well. Jeff C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormadeaudio Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Hi Simon, I had a similar issue on my cart. I was running (max at one time) 7 411's: 6 lavs and 1 wireless boom. The boom channel kept dropping exactly as you describe. It was only the boom channel though. All along, I thought it was the mixing console (Mackie 1604 vlz pro) I tried new cables (though they're all pretty new to begin with) different channels, everything I could think of... and even retired said mixer as a result. It was an old board, lots of hours, high current draw -- not really designed for location cart mixing. I thought for sure it was something in the board. So I got a CS208D : ) (I was planning on upgrading anyways) It's good (in a way) to hear that someone else has experienced this phenomenon though. I thought I was going crazy! I still haven't figured out the cause, but I think it had something to do with some kind of resistance build-up (for lack of a better term) in the signal path. I say this because no amount of fader or gain adjustment would remedy the problem. What DID work however was simply reaching around the back of the cart and disconnecting / reconnecting the line. The signal strength would return to normal just as you described when you'd change the output level on the Lectro. It got to the point where I'd have to do this 5 or 6 times a day (usually after lunch.) So I could see why it would kind of seem like a heat thing. In any case, the common denominator seems to be the 411's. That said, I've used the same 411's with a 442 in the bag (along with a 702T) all powered by a Remote Audio BDS/ IDX LiIon NP1 set up -- running all day (10-12 hrs) without a hitch. The signal drop only occured on the cart with the Mackie. So, I'm not sure it's a heat thing because my units all work fine in the bag -- 4 of 'em, all Velcro'ed to each other including a Lectro IFB trans, the 442 and 702T -- all generating heat with little to no dissipation. On the cart, the Lectros were basically in the open air -- nothing but the casing to trap heat. This is what lead me to think it has something to do with some kind of resistance build-up in the output signal. The only question I would have at this point is how old your gear is. Having learned about your situation, I'm inclined to CC this post to the folks at Lectrosonics and see if they have anything to say. I'm sorry I don't have a remedy for you, but perhaps this info will help? Please feel free to eMail me: tom@taylormadeaudio.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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