Travis Breitenbach Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Also, I love this thread. Great input from many mixers and entrepreneurs whom I have nothing but respect for. Glenn, I think I am your target user. I'm pushing the panning thing because it's a concern for someone whom this product is otherwise made for. I'm the type of person who needs and wants durable, efficient, small footprint devices, and people like me still need to create stereo mix-downs while walking back-ward at night with booms extended. There are a lot of reply's in this thread which say, "This might not be the product for you...," but it is CLEARLY designed with mixers like me in mind - don't design one of the smallest most flexible pieces of equipment ever and tell me it's not. It just seems kneecapped with a cart-style biased routing system. I've got some ideas for a software based solutions if you care to hear them. Keep up the great work and innovation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 let say pan a few channels. Sound devices sorry for the drunken rant!!! (: I had a few more for my birthday. (: W/ the CL8 you can pan it w/ in 1 sec. not 5 secs. On most reality shows camera's mixes are primary tracks. CH.1 and Ch.2. You'll have to be able to mix fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Sorry guys, for me it would be more the trim. I like the idea of a dual concentric pot, like the old master volume on the shure mixer. Fader and trim, or simply pull for trim and push for fader. As of the pan, variable pan is great but i could live with simple left and right tiny push button to assign, like on the CL8. THen we would be talking about a real game changer for the ENG/Reality market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 About cost: Lets say somebody needs 4 mic pre channels. He can ether buy 744t/442 combo $5500 ,788t cl8 $6980 or Nomad for $3300 This is where NOMAD kicks ass price wise let say pan a few channels. Sound devices sorry for the drunken rant!!! (: I had a few more for my birthday. (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Goldberger Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 As of the pan, variable pan is great but i could live with simple left and right tiny push button to assign, like on the CL8. THen we would be talking about a real game changer for the ENG/Reality market. This exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I think anyone who declares that the SD 788/CL9 is DEAD is not thinking clearly. I hope they aren't thinking clearly and have one to sell me at a fire-sale price. The Nomad is an amazing machine that will enable a style of working and facilitate a multitude of functions all in one box, things which cannot be accomplished with any combination of devices from all the other manufacturers. I can't tell if the Nomad will work for me. I'd like to rent a Nomad for a week and see what I think, then I'll know if it can adapt to me and I can adapt to it. Man, the price and the features are really intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanross Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Zaxcom products will never be cheaper then the competitor but they are worth the extra cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 4 channel micpre recorder nomad $3300 2 channel micpre 4 channel recorder 744t $4095 This is cheaper. 6 channel Nomad $4400 gives you IFb and time code integrated TX/RX. Also AES42 if you care about it. Zaxcom products will never be cheaper then the competitor but they are worth the extra cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Should have said SD 744t is dead. Who would buy the 744t over Nomad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I believe it does have TC. I believe the 4 ch nomad has no tc tho so that can be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 " Who would buy the 744t over Nomad? " how easily one simply dismisses all sorts of other customers besides the relatively few of us here... how many folks were at the RAMPS get together ?? there were almost 1k HAM radio operators at the Wednesday HAM radio reception... do not discount the musicians "MI" market sector, and yes, in todays marketplace a product as long in the tooth as the original 7 series recorders are not the hot sellers they used to be, and neither are many of the digital recorders that are newer than the older 7 series models, including some from Zaxcom... " I believe the 4 ch nomad has no tc tho so that can be an issue " or " I believe it does have TC. " and I believe the world is flat... you gotta' believe really hard! or " not a matter of belief: This page: http://www.zaxcom.com/Nomad.html " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Luckily, timecode is not a matter of belief: This page: http://www.zaxcom.com/Nomad.html Says all models of Nomad have a SMPTE TC reader/generator that supports all broadcast sample and frame rates. The page also breaks down the differences in different models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I believe the 4 ch nomad has no tc tho so that can be an issue. All versions of Nomad has TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I am out of this topic. See you when the first units start popping out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 or " not a matter of belief: This page: http://www.zaxcom.com/Nomad.html " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTA Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I agree with what a lot of the ENG mixers have said below. If the Nomad had simple pan buttons and trim knobs (please add them!) it would be a no-brainer purchase for me. But because it doesn't (as of yet), I'm still leaning towards the 788T - CL8 combo. Stereo mixes are still huge for the reality work I'm doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Goldberger Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Whoa. Intense. I love that they kept cutting in reaction shots of John, for dramatic effect. I wonder how this went down? Was it just a coincidence that he and Gotham's camera were there at the same time? e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Whoa. Intense. I love that they kept cutting in reaction shots of John, for dramatic effect. I wonder how this went down? Was it just a coincidence that he and Gotham's camera were there at the same time? e. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Huh? I think Solid G is referring to this: Zaxcom Nomad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actualsizeaudio Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Holy cow, John T, giving Glenn the third degree on the Nomad. How on earth did that go down? That kinda made me nervous to watch. Did they arm wrestle once the camera stopped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound Grab Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Loved every single second of that video.. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Glenn touching the Nomad and saying: "It runs absolutely cold. " This is the greatest video I have ever seen... Loved every single second of that video.. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 We thought it was very funny. I won the arm wrestle. ;-) Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre Rivera Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 best video from NAB! lol. it was great we need more of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Kinda surreal. They both seemed as tense as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. I have products from both companies, like both individuals, and wish them both well. Competition is good for our industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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