PTA Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Owning a 552, I have been exploring the use of the digital outs on it. I've been looking into the D4 system from Lectro which has the option of going digital in and out if your using it as a hop on the new Sony XD cams. I know the QRX has digital outs on it, but I keep hoping, maybe dreaming that Zaxcom will make a version of the TRX w/STA with digital inputs on it as well. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I inquired about this in September 2010 and they told me that they were thinking of making a digital STA adapter and that if so it would be announced or revealed around NAB... So I'm guessing that its on the back burner if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 That would be awesome, in addition to camera hop, as a wireless boom Tx. Use a Schoeps or Sennheiser digital mic, with an adapter to go to AES3 and in the case of Sennheiser, the ability to do M-S with a single digital preamp body via Y-cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTA Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I inquired about this in September 2010 and they told me that they were thinking of making a digital STA adapter and that if so it would be announced or revealed around NAB... So I'm guessing that its on the back burner if anything. Man, I didn't even think of that, something as simple as making just a digital STA adapter. That's too bad it didn't make it out at NAB, that most likely would have sold me 100% on a Zax camera hop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Capulli Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the AES stream is not identical from the mic output to the receiver output because of the dsp and compression. The next question is... how much does that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Your right, not the same, but there are some "digital preamp" boxes out there that will basically convert AES42 (Schoeps / Sennheiser / Neumann) to AES3 (AES/EBU). They are small, "relatively" cheap, and some can be battery powered. I think you loose some of the headroom with such converters, and I'm not sure how one would choose gain ranges. Glenn expressed that the TRX42 may some day be able to handle a stereo AES42 stream, but it is obviously not the right box for the application being discussed - camera hops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Well it sounds like its time for the STA042. Its easy to do so if enough people want it I will do it. It would work with the TRX900AA as is. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actualsizeaudio Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Well it sounds like its time for the STA042. Its easy to do so if enough people want it I will do it. It would work with the TRX900AA as is. Glenn It would be very sexy to go digital out of a Nomad, or 788T into the TRX900AA. I would buy one for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTA Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Well it sounds like its time for the STA042. Its easy to do so if enough people want it I will do it. It would work with the TRX900AA as is. Glenn I would love that and I think many 552 users would as well. How long would something like this take before it is actually available to the public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 It would be very sexy to go digital out of a Nomad, or 788T into the TRX900AA. I would buy one for sure. +1 That would be very sexy indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 +1 That would be very sexy indeed. +2 That would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Wang Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 +3 now it's the time Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 + 4 for me - I think it would be great since NOMAD can output digital. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 It will be quick as the TRX942 has AES42 input now. Its mainly a packaging job. Should be available August. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomer Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 It will be quick as the TRX942 has AES42 input now. Its mainly a packaging job. Should be available August. Glenn AES 42 as stand alone with trx 900 with its internal batteries or you will need ext power for that ? or AES 3 only ? Tomash B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 AES 3 only. The battery life of a TRX900AA can not support AES42 at all. By comparison the TRX942 has about a 5 hour life with Super CMIT. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTA Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 AES 3 only. The battery life of a TRX900AA can not support AES42 at all. By comparison the TRX942 has about a 5 hour life with Super CMIT. Glenn Will this new STA042 be a analogue/digital device or will we need to have a STA150 for analogue signals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I was in error on this. The STA042 will support AES42 inputs if externally powered by 9-18 volts. It will support balanced AES with internal or external power. It will not support analog inputs. The STA150 or STA100 will still be needed for that. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomer Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I was in error on this. The STA042 will support AES42 inputs if externally powered by 9-18 volts. It will support balanced AES with internal or external power. It will not support analog inputs. The STA150 or STA100 will still be needed for that. Glenn Is it passive device , or able to rise the digital gain? Just a stupid question, is it complete digital or digital to analog trx 900 input ? Tomash B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Glenn Will the STA042 be designed like the STA100 with the inputs on the back or more like the 150. My vote is like the STA100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Glenn Will the STA042 be designed like the STA100 with the inputs on the back or more like the 150. My vote is like the STA100. why? for me having the cables on the side like the sta150 means that it sits nicely in the bag. and i suspect that quite a lot of people thought the same which is why we all asked for something like the sta150 after using the sta100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 why? for me having the cables on the side like the sta150 means that it sits nicely in the bag. and i suspect that quite a lot of people thought the same which is why we all asked for something like the sta150 after using the sta100. As for my setup the cables on the back gives me a nice fit in my bag. Glenn is possible to design the STA042 in a way that both flavors could be had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 The STA042 form factor will be the same as the STA150. The unit will have adjustable digital gain and our soft knee compressor. All audio is processed in the digital domain. No digital to analog conversion is involved. This will keep the audio free from added noise and distortion. Transmission as well is 100% digital. The digital audio gain is controlable via Zaxnet from Deva,Fusion and Nomad. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTA Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 The STA042 form factor will be the same as the STA150. The unit will have adjustable digital gain and our soft knee compressor. All audio is processed in the digital domain. No digital to analog conversion is involved. This will keep the audio free from added noise and distortion. Transmission as well is 100% digital. The digital audio gain is controlable via Zaxnet from Deva,Fusion and Nomad. Glenn Now I'm a little confused, I thought digital meant it was digital, and there is no gain setup. AES/EBU plug it in and it works. I might need an explanation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 The Super CMIT AES output needs digital gain. It's output requires about 20dB of gain to be usable. This could be added at any point but allowing the TRX900 to do it provides a normalized AES signal at the receiver output. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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