Angelo Waldron Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Looks like it will take +4 line level, but specs not complete. Might record 3D audio. You can even put it on the tripod the cam op doesn't want to use! http://www.rolandsys...products/100093 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vesterskov Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Wow, looks really really nice! Wonder what it'll set you back.. EDIT: According to the brochure, it will actually take up to +24dBu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I want one! Touchscreen and all. Doesn't look like they are actually shipping yet. Anyone have a source for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Looks like a nice one. Wonder if it will have actual hardware connections to input line level sources to take advantage of all of it's recording tracks.. My guess is not a chance. Looks like just the usual two combo jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vesterskov Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Derek, it has the same connections as the Zoom - Combo XLR/TRS and a minijack input, so you have four channels. Dont know how you'll change levels on four channels with 2 knobs though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Waldron Posted September 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Not 3D audio, but "Multi-Dimensional" ... 6 channel recorder. Further search says available in Oct., but no mention of price. Should come out same time as Nomad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordi Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 I'm concerned by the claim of "three stereo" on the 6-channel recording. Does that mean that it will be a mandatory stereo track, and trying to feed it different signals, no matter the input, will end up with mixed wav files? I hope not. I haven't messed with my Zoom H4 to see if it would do true 4 track using the minijack input, but I don't think the original H4 that I have can even do that. If the H4N can... Nice upgrade, that would be better for doing iso backups from my 442, which is all I really would want the Roland to do too. That touchscreen does look very cool though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonG Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 not another one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Heath Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Looks to be made of a better material than the zoom h4n. Or maybe not. its hard to say from a picture. Interesting for ambiance sound design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 same problem as the h4n or others in this category - need to use a remote to control level. trying to hold in hand and make changes in level translates as handling noise. for general amb - can be used effectively by placing on some surface or using a small tripod (Gorilla). this way, you dont get to change levels during recording unless you wont mind some handling noise in the track. the h4n remote works well, is the only way to use the recorder with dynamic level control - if you are using the onboard mics. this goes for ALL handhelds. incuding this new one. I think separating the L and R input levels physically the way it is on this machine is actually a pita if you want to get a stereo recording using internal mics. they could have gone for the concentric pots - like in the Sony PCM D1. Or some of the old Tascam DATs. not another one! > yes, another one - without much to offer compared to the earlier ones. imho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Waldron Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Roland should have consulted JWSound before manufacturing such a product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 If this one has a similar menu structure and file handling as the Edirol (now Roland) R-44, this will be a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Roland should have consulted JWSound before manufacturing such a product. For sure, and they may have a much better product than they have out there... All our usual manufacturers do send out beta units for testing with many of the mixers who post here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 At first glance, similar input structure (2 combo neutriks, 2 mini) as H4N with added option of using built in mics. How much of an advantage is that worth? Depends on price and quality of analog ins and limiter, methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 At first glance, similar input structure (2 combo neutriks, 2 mini) as H4N with added option of using built in mics. How much of an advantage is that worth? Depends on price and quality of analog ins and limiter, methinks. You can use the built in mics simultaneously with the inputs on the H4n as well. Roland can record 6 tracks at once though... But can it double as an audio interface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 " should have consulted JWSound " ...not the target market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Waldron Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 " should have consulted JWSound " ...not the target market. "Mr. Right all the Time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 "You can use the built in mics simultaneously with the inputs on the H4n" I don't think you can use the H4N mini, XLR and onboard mics simultaneously..which it seems the Roland can do. Couldn't iso them anyway with just 4 tracks. I suppose the Roland's helpful if you somehow get that tripod mounted unit into a sweet spot and control/monitor from mixer. Eh..again..the quality of inputs and accuracy/lack of drift might make it more useful. It sure looks like a ripoff/upgrade of H4N...if there was a H6N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Angelo, actually Senator IS right. We are not the target market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 "You can use the built in mics simultaneously with the inputs on the H4n" I don't think you can use the H4N mini, XLR and onboard mics simultaneously..which it seems the Roland can do. Couldn't iso them anyway with just 4 tracks. I suppose the Roland's helpful if you somehow get that tripod mounted unit into a sweet spot and control/monitor from mixer. Eh..again..the quality of inputs and accuracy/lack of drift might make it more useful. It sure looks like a ripoff/upgrade of H4N...if there was a H6N. Oh yeah I see what you mean. The mini-input on the h4n disables the builtin mics right? I believe the six track recording on the roland is the two stereo mics together plus the inputs... Maybe it's the same as with h4n that plugging aomething into the minitele jack eliminates one pair of the builtin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gilchrist Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Oh yeah I see what you mean. The mini-input on the h4n disables the builtin mics right? I believe the six track recording on the roland is the two stereo mics together plus the inputs... Maybe it's the same as with h4n that plugging aomething into the minitele jack eliminates one pair of the builtin... Nope, not in all cases. Here's a chart from the page linked to above that shows all the possible configurations in 2, 4 and 6 track mode: Best regards, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 So assuming p-in means the plug in mic jack you could theoretically record 4 line level sources if you had the right cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 " assuming... " Ohhh Kay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Waldron Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 We are not the target market. I had no idea...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Hankerson Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 If anyone doesn't know yet and cares to know this is suppose to be available around 09/25 according to my dealer but subject to change. Also the going price right now is $499. Nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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