Marco Lopez Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I had also the pleasure to work with Alexa. As everybody else said it already it's very silent and user friendly. Everything is simple to access. You don't need to start looking for the audio submenu, in the hurry of the shooting. But the most important, is that, it doesn't crash( saw a lot of media crashing or all of the sudden stops recording or just shuts down) and it wont delay the shooting program. Imagine that this happened some weeks ago: http://techcrunch.co...camera-dust-up/ And now I'm wondering, why would a 95 year old company, with an amazing Digital Camera, have the need to do this? Or is this just a trick of Red to survive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Pert Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Marco- Red sues arri discussed here---> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Lopez Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Marco- Red sues arri discussed here---> Thanks for that. I didn't realize that there was a topic on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Note also that Arri didn't do the spying -- it was one employee who formerly worked for Band Pro. Quite a scandal. The question that remains is how much did the upper Arri executives know about this, and when did they know it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Not a new Alexa on a national commercial. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Not a new Alexa on a national commercial. CrewC This is a joke, right? ....RIGHT?!? Though, a long time ago, I worked on this: Shot with about 25 Sony Ericsson phones. The biggest issue was their frame rate (which we were told by the manufacturer was 25fps) varied between about 23fps and 11fps. So they all got out of sync with each other really fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 This is from a real commercial today 2 2 12. I'm not on it, a friend is. The IPhone camera is not a constant frame rate either. That's the future Amigo. Bad for good is the new school. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhobbit Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 This is really getting stupid. I think I'm going to buy a john boat and call myself a captain and motor it across the ocean. Scott..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McL Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Find myself this weekend with three Alexa cameras to which post wishes "scratch track" delivered. Thankfully thought ahead and had Mr. Toline make me four 5-pin Alexa audio cables. Two are 3.5mm stereo --> 5-pin that I can use with the Zax ERX units (I hope) and two are 2xXLR3F --> 5-pin that I can use with a Lectro RX. Perfect. One concern with this setup is whether the ERX unit will reach line level. I don't think so. Anybody? In that event I'll use two PR216's. I love the Alexa. -- Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Find myself this weekend with three Alexa cameras to which post wishes "scratch track" delivered. Thankfully thought ahead and had Mr. Toline make me four 5-pin Alexa audio cables. Two are 3.5mm stereo --> 5-pin that I can use with the Zax ERX units (I hope) and two are 2xXLR3F --> 5-pin that I can use with a Lectro RX. Perfect. One concern with this setup is whether the ERX unit will reach line level. I don't think so. Anybody? In that event I'll use two PR216's. I love the Alexa. -- Jan The ERX won't reach line level. You can add gain at the Alexa, but you need ~ 20dB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McL Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 The ERX won't reach line level. You can add gain at the Alexa, but you need ~ 20dB. Yeah. That's what I thought, except I thought based only upon reading Alexa-related threads here that one couldn't add gain at the Alexa, that it wants and needs line level. So, you can add gain. Cool. Have two line-level out Lectro RX's so it's just the C camera I need to plan for. Got plenty of options standing by, but would like to fly out the ERX for this purpose (first time). Look forward to finding out what's what. Thanks! -- Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yep, you can add up to 30dB IIRC. At least on the camera I used. And that was....5 months ago? I used it anyway, even though it was a bit low on level (scratch track only and they knew that) - it was very handy for the 1-box TC and audio solution. EDIT: For future reference it's only 25dB that you can add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McL Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Excellent. I have also two 3.5mm --> lemos that could take care of jamming 'em, too. Sweet. -- Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Pert Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 It's been posted before but the link changed so... Arri Simulator's for Alexa and AlexaPlus.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Anyone managed to get record run timecode out of the Alexa timecode Lemo socket? I tried yesterday but although the camera was set to record run, the Lemo continued to spit out free run time of day that I'd jammed. Couldn't spend any more time on it so just went with free run. Looks like the Alexa doesn't do the same as Sony / Panasonic - that is when set to record run you get a record run output. Puzzling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McL Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 It's been posted before but the link changed so... Arri Simulator's for Alexa and AlexaPlus.... That was useful! Thanks Brandon! -- Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Pert Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 From the Alexa manual: Rec run is currently without use as the camera cannot record internally. The manual doesn't even mention the possibility of a record run output either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Heath Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Thats a pretty cool feature on the arri website. I think every company should create one of those to go through their product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 From the Alexa manual: Rec run is currently without use as the camera cannot record internally. The manual doesn't even mention the possibility of a record run output either. Which version of the manual do you refer to please? There's no statement that matches this in ARRI_ALEXA_User-Manual_SUP_5-0_5-1 as far as I can see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Gordon Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Not a new Alexa on a national commercial. Crew Well people are always going to try to use the iPhone/Pad things to shoot with. Heck, my new HTC Amaze shoots1080 video and has an 8mp camera. Am I going to throw my Canon 7D and L lenses onto the rubbish pile? No. The phone/camera thing is just a tool to be used and tried. But here's the lesson in all of this "crazy camera/gadget of the moment" silliness: People will always accept sub-par video (heck, look at the crap on YouTube), but they will never accept sub-par audio. The minute a viewer can't hear what is being said or there is any crackling of the audio, that person is gone. On to the next video or channel. Where as, if there's an image, grainy, poorly exposed and out of focus, but the audio is good, they'll watch it. Just yesterday I was watching the local news (big snow day here in Denver) and one of the reporters did their report from his home, via Skype. Everytime he leaned toward the laptop camera his face would explode because of the desk lamp that was his key, but the audio was rock solid and you could hear him just fine. Completely intelligible. Actually it was the best Skype report that I have ever seen. There was no break-up of the video and as usual, the audio was on. Again, yet another tool. Crazy crap, but that's the world of News gathering. Been there, done that and I hate it. Speaking of single system audio... Blah! After reading this thread, I look forward to my first experience with an Alexa. Better get me a 5 pin XLR break away cable end like the one pictured above! Edited February 4, 2012 by Chas Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Pert Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Which version of the manual do you refer to please? There's no statement that matches this in ARRI_ALEXA_User-Manual_SUP_5-0_5-1 as far as I can see? Apologies, I was looking at V1 of the manual! The newer manual doesn't mention anything about a Rec Run signal coming out of the camera. The new manual says this about Record Run: Internal TC, Rec Run ␣ Use: Single camera productions, either MOS or where a classical slate is used for alignment of image and sound. Guarantees continuous time code for each storage medium. Works alos with over- and under-cranking. ␣ Setup: The camera is set to Int TC Rec Run Regen. TC is only increased during record by 1 frame for each image generated by the sensor. The TC counts with the project fps set on the camera as time base. Normally, the TC hour value is increased by 1 hour for each new reel, usiong only hours 01-20 for reel 1-20, and then restarting at hour 01 for reel 21. ␣ Variations: Might be used on a production normally using external TC for high-speed scenes, then returning to Ext TC for regular scenes later. ␣ Restrictions: None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Quick question, had a test shoot today and tried to send TC to the Alexa from a 788T via cable. It seemed like the Alexa wants to run the TC on its own instead of acting as a slave and reading my TC permanently (again, not jamming but permanent TC input). So when I plugged in the Alexa showed the same TC as my recorder, but it drifted notably within less than a minute it seemed. AC wasn't sure either. Is there a hidden setting somewhere? All I found was the TC button settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Was it out by a second? If that was the case, that's the lag in the display and the recorded TC is actually in sync. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 That's what I had hoped. Thanks. It was close to second. So the Alexa's display always lags? I read in the manual that it automatically switches to Internal TC regen when sensor and prject frame rate are not the same. Thought that could have been the issue too, but the lag thing sounds like that must be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yep, it's always roughly a second behind. On a recent show, we would jam into the camera using an Ambient Box, TOD fed from the 788T. We'd count seconds off the 788T and check the display was within a second. No issues from post regarding TC sync. Yes, the project TC and the frame rate must match, but once it's set, it won't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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