Jack Norflus Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 I've had my nomad for about a year and a half. Though I believe the pots were quiet after a couple of months. And its not like it would be noisy one day and quiet the next. It is something that gets slightly quieter every day till one day you don't notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 " The Nomad only supports up to 30p. " you are interchanging video spec's with SMPTE/EBU TC spec's ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate C Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 The menu and headphone knob do get quieter over time, though I can sometimes still hear mine in some quiet interview situations. You also get to know how to push the buttons in a quieter fashion. If you hold the knobs by the sides near the bottom as you push them down the audible click will be greatly reduced. As with everything in sound gentle hands is the key... hey we're not grips. When I got my 442 back in the day the slight click of the headphone dial bothered me at first. It went away over time. You learn to work with it's kirks. That machine served me and my clients well for many years as I know my nomad will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodoHu Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 What audio recorder do you work with that does 50p? I'm guessing you're on pal, so you could do 25fps, but really your TC rate should be run past your post department. That is the problem: My nomad doesn't do 50p. Since I am the post department myself, I am looking for a way to get the footage synched up. Not so easy and very time consuming. That is why I am calling for 50p on the Nomad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 That is the problem: My nomad doesn't do 50p. Since I am the post department myself, I am looking for a way to get the footage synched up. Not so easy and very time consuming. That is why I am calling for 50p on the Nomad. No recorder anywhere does 50p. No recorder does 48p either, but, you know, it worked for The Hobbit. They ran 24 (or 23.976) timecode. You should run 25. It'll work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb1138 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 No recorder anywhere does 50p. No recorder does 48p either, but, you know, it worked for The Hobbit. They ran 24 (or 23.976) timecode. You should run 25. It'll work. Isn't there something else? The 48.048khz available in the Nomad? Something about the pulldown that comes later? He may have to pay attention to that. I can't recall how it works right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Yes nomad can do 48.048. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 " My nomad doesn't do 50p. " there is no SMPTE/EBU TC specification for these camera frame rates, even in the cameras! You are really going to have to do some studying up on this stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodoHu Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 It works to sync up 50p footage with 25p audio, when I sync them on timecode and then use the aux-tc for editing. Would be nicer, if I could make use of the 50p standards like avchd 2.0 and XAVC. But for now, I found a workaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 " with 25p audio, " there is no 25p audio, you are referring to audio with SMPTE/EBU 25 FPS time code. there is no 50P or 50i or 60P or 60i time code in SMPTE /EU formats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Hirtenstein Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Dodo you are confusing your video FIELD rates with frame rates for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodoHu Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 My setup is a Nomad that sends the timecode via IFB to a ERX1TC and from there to the audio track of the video. This to synch the video and the audio via tc. That means, I record 50p video with a 25p timecode. Wrong? Maybe I am not a super techie, but I think that doesn't really match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Dodo you are confusing your video FIELD rates with frame rates for starters Unless he's shooting a new version of HFR....which I'm guessing not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 My setup is a Nomad that sends the timecode via IFB to a ERX1TC and from there to the audio track of the video. This to synch the video and the audio via tc. That means, I record 50p video with a 25p timecode. Wrong? Maybe I am not a super techie, but I think that doesn't really match. Listen to Senator Mike! He's been succinct, but accurate, in this thread. There is no such animal as 25P time code. SMPTE time code is a set of standards established by the Society of Motion Picture & Television Engineers ( https://www.smpte.org/ ) and does not include as part of its specifications whether a frame is Progressive or Interlaced. "P" refers to how a VIDEO frame is captured and has NOTHING to do with time code. Yes, there is a tremendous amount of confusion these days (with post, with shooters, and even, unfortunately, with sound mixers) as to the difference between "time base" "frame rate" and "time code." They are three different things. Also, with frame rates there's "Interlaced" (which actually refers to the fields that make up a frame), "Progressive," and "PsF" (Progressive segmented Frame), etc. People who don't begin to understand these technologies, and their relationships to each other, are now trying to wrap their brains around HFR. Then there are people here throwing a misunderstanding of "Sampling Rate" into the mix. YIKES! This comes from the all-too-common confusion with "pull-up" and "pull-down" (where you might, or might not, be introducing a 100.1% sampling rate alternative) which refers strictly to an actual speed change. Unfortunately, too many folks who only know enough to try to sound like they're knowledgeable, toss these terms around with careless abandon and add to the chaos. No wonder so many people are confused. Just remember that 74% of what you read on the internet is wrong. Does that include what I just wrote here? Only if you educate yourself and spend a few years working in this industry will you be able to properly answer these questions and begin to have full competence in such matters. The illusion that one can buy a particular piece of equipment, ask a few simple questions, and magically become a competent professional is an illusion perpetrated by a new generation of entitlement. Be warned, it's a seductive illusion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) " Maybe I am not a super techie, but I think that doesn't really match. " we think you really need to do some research (reading)... start with the terms you are throwing around. it isn't "Plug'nPlay" and, as Sawrab is about to say: workflow tests Edited April 26, 2013 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb1138 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Nevermind everything that everybody's said. You should ASK POST. Only way to know for sure. I've done post for some films as well. It can be a nightmare for us at that point. But if you think audio's confusing...video is a real mess. You and Post should really do tests with the video and sound to make sure it all works. We're always testing production stuff, whether cameras and microphones are working days before using them, but not workflows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demarsman Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Just started using a Nomad 10 for a trial period of a couple of days, and absolutely love it, love the sound, like the limiters and pre-amps, has a slightly steeper learning curve than the 788, but once u get it up and running... It's a wonderful piece of equipment with an excellent sound! But, missing a few things, especially in the homescreen. Is there a way to change that? Would love to see a trackname/count and a a-time, i'm only seeing the timecode, HP preset, battery, rec time left on i assume the mirrorcard, and a line that says "mounted volume" I couldn't find a way to change that... Somebody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Just started using a Nomad 10 for a trial period of a couple of days, and absolutely love it, love the sound, like the limiters and pre-amps, has a slightly steeper learning curve than the 788, but once u get it up and running... It's a wonderful piece of equipment with an excellent sound! But, missing a few things, especially in the homescreen. Is there a way to change that? Would love to see a trackname/count and a a-time, i'm only seeing the timecode, HP preset, battery, rec time left on i assume the mirrorcard, and a line that says "mounted volume" I couldn't find a way to change that... Somebody? Your suggestions have been made before by others but so far have not really made it into new software. Email them to Zaxcom, the more people who ask for those things the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 You should ASK POST. Only way to know for sure. Unless they don't have a clue either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb1138 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Just started using a Nomad 10 for a trial period of a couple of days, and absolutely love it, love the sound, like the limiters and pre-amps, has a slightly steeper learning curve than the 788, but once u get it up and running... It's a wonderful piece of equipment with an excellent sound! But, missing a few things, especially in the homescreen. Is there a way to change that? Would love to see a trackname/count and a a-time, i'm only seeing the timecode, HP preset, battery, rec time left on i assume the mirrorcard, and a line that says "mounted volume" I couldn't find a way to change that... Somebody? There is something like a track name when you go to the card tracks page. But maybe that's not what you mean. You can go and name them all if you want, but then if you have a Lite it takes forever since there's no keyboard support. I didn't think it had a steeper curve than the 788. Took me forever to read the 788's manual And I still got the last 2/4-tracks (?) unarmed thing wrong. That one time.... One, unforgettable time. Unless they don't have a clue either. Yeah that's kinda why I added the second paragraph, heh. HFR is pretty new stuff after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Would love to see a trackname/count and a a-time, i'm only seeing the timecode, HP preset, battery, rec time left on i assume the mirrorcard, and a line that says "mounted volume"I couldn't find a way to change that... Somebody? Zaxcom will be adding a info page that you can toggle to that will include all that plus a whole lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkRall Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I have a question about inputs 7- 10. (Ret 1/2 & 3/4) I understand that pressing "SETUP" and then "COM" or "SLT" will get you to where you can change the gain on tracks 7-10. One of my home screen selections shows me input 7 - 10 with what appears to be a green fader slider over them. Pressing in the menu button toggles me between these green sliders, but when I move these faders there is no change in audio input? How can I 'enable' these green sliders to change input gain ? Thanks in advance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Assign inputs 7-10 to a mix bus post fader and the 4 virtual faders will control the level of each of the 4 channels. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkRall Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Assign inputs 7-10 to a mix bus post fader and the 4 virtual faders will control the level of each of the 4 channels. Glenn Glenn I forgot to mention I am using a LITE. Thanks Again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Just started using a Nomad 10 for a trial period of a couple of days, and absolutely love it, love the sound, like the limiters and pre-amps, has a slightly steeper learning curve than the 788, but once u get it up and running... It's a wonderful piece of equipment with an excellent sound! But, missing a few things, especially in the homescreen. Is there a way to change that? Would love to see a trackname/count and a a-time, i'm only seeing the timecode, HP preset, battery, rec time left on i assume the mirrorcard, and a line that says "mounted volume" I couldn't find a way to change that... Somebody? First, there are a bunch of home screen options. Are you on the newest firmware? there was some fairly recent updates to the screen options (with more coming it seems). There are some good threads on the Zaxcom.com forum with users discussion the home screens, and what they would like to see as options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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