Zack Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Well, I wouldn't "always" run the latest, since you could run into more issues than before, just be mindful of latest fixes. Many users don't upgrade to the latest solely because of stability. To give up the peace of mind of stability for the ability to use a period is risky for newer issues. Thankfully though, 5.16 has been very stable for many users. Just food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Well, I wouldn't "always" run the latest, since you could run into more issues than before, just be mindful of latest fixes. Many users don't upgrade to the latest solely because of stability. To give up the peace of mind of stability for the ability to use a period is risky for newer issues. Thankfully though, 5.16 has been very stable for many users. Just food for thought. Yeah good point, i guess it s a balance of stability vs. features Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 allright so i just want to share what happened to me today, i get a email from post saying that some sound files are missing for this project. there was major technical misunderstanding so nobody dared to raise a flag before now that we re more than halfway into production... anyway, what i discovered is that when i was naming my scene number ex: 5.28A, the DOT in the number would confuse nomad and make it not properly deliver all files on mirror card. THANK GOD i backed up my primary card before formating it otherwise we would have lost most sound files for the project. i talked to howy today and he said this was a bug on version 4.45e that i was running that has been fixed on 5.16. it confirmed two things for me: first always run latest firmware version wich i didn't (bouhou me)... and secondly always backup primary card, no matter what. cold sweats I always keep the files on the primary until way after shooting ends, some time until the project is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 5.16 since it came out. Not a single issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 " Not a single issue... " for anyone ? how about: always run latest stable firmware version that is after the first pioneers finish beta-testing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Any news on a selectable MS decoder in software? From an earlier post Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:10 PM as Glenn pointed out here, it is possible to monitor/decode M/S now. Basically make your own matrix via the card routing. http://www.zaxcom.co...questions/page2 Keep in mind this is only a temporary way to monitor - there will be a selectable M/S decoder in the software soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Any news on a selectable MS decoder in software? From an earlier post Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:10 PM as Glenn pointed out here, it is possible to monitor/decode M/S now. Basically make your own matrix via the card routing. http://www.zaxcom.co...questions/page2 Keep in mind this is only a temporary way to monitor - there will be a selectable M/S decoder in the software soon. <grin> Shouldn't that be: ...there will be a selectable M/S decoder in the software "soon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 "eventually" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I don't personally see the need for anything extra to be added to the software. Once you have set up your inputs to card tracks and headphone matrix, that's it. I've been doing a lot of MS recording for my recent doco job, and love the way I can quickly change the Nomad to record and monitor in MS. I literally change mics, plug the 2 XLRs from the 5 pin cable into a couple of XLR tails connected to the Nomad, enable the 2 tracks that record the MS signal and change the Headphone selector. Takes about 40 seconds. The track names are labelled as MS L and MS R and the Headphone matrix is labelled MS too. I've also decided, after speaking to lots of editors and directors about this, to record the decoded signal so they can monitor in stereo whilst in the edit. In the past, even though I have explained things clearly, my encoded MS recordings haven't been used properly, with the "S" signal often not included in the final OMF. Recording decoded might not be right for all projects, but for my doco's it's the right way to go. And I know it's easy to monitor decoded MS and record encoded if that's what you want to do. Btw - I think the Nomad is working great at the moment. It's so flexible and self contained, that's really it's strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I don't personally see the need for anything extra to be added to the software. Once you have set up your inputs to card tracks and headphone matrix, that's it. I've been doing a lot of MS recording for my recent doco job, and love the way I can quickly change the Nomad to record and monitor in MS. I literally change mics, plug the 2 XLRs from the 5 pin cable into a couple of XLR tails connected to the Nomad, enable the 2 tracks that record the MS signal and change the Headphone selector. Takes about 40 seconds. The track names are labelled as MS L and MS R and the Headphone matrix is labelled MS too. I've also decided, after speaking to lots of editors and directors about this, to record the decoded signal so they can monitor in stereo whilst in the edit. In the past, even though I have explained things clearly, my encoded MS recordings haven't been used properly, with the "S" signal often not included in the final OMF. Recording decoded might not be right for all projects, but for my doco's it's the right way to go. And I know it's easy to monitor decoded MS and record encoded if that's what you want to do. Btw - I think the Nomad is working great at the moment. It's so flexible and self contained, that's really it's strength. Yes agreed good idea if you have the tracks to spare, but if you don't want to record the decoded MS, just the iso's, and use those decoded tracks for something else, you'd lose the MS decoded monitoring option, unless it was available in software.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Blache Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 With the 5.16 version you can reverse whatever source you want in the Head Phones menu. Maybe I ´ve miss somethings but it´s seems enought,no ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 As Patrick has said, you can assign the M and S inputs to card tracks without recording them, or outputs. Then set up a headphone matrix to monitor both of those card tracks,(or outputs) in both ears, but flip the phase of the "S" track in one ear. Is that not what you're after? I might be misunderstanding something - do you not want to record the MS tracks? If so why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 You don't need to assign them to a card track to do the monitoring. You can invert the phase of the side signal in you headphone setup. I don't see any need for any addition to the software, MS monitoring works just fine as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Any of the headphone monitor selections can be made normal or phase inverted so MS decoding is all ready there on every MAXX. We will add a discription of the setup to the manual. No monitoring changes are planed at this time. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Any of the headphone monitor selections can be made normal or phase inverted so MS decoding is all ready there on every MAXX. We will add a discription of the setup to the manual. No monitoring changes are planed at this time. Glenn So how do I phase invert in the headphone setup on a Nomad please? It's either on or off and it doesn't say in the manual. You can phase invert a card track or an output but I can't find it for headphone monitoring. I found this in the firmware history and tried the star key but it didn't offer phase invert in the headphone monitoring on my machine as far as I can tell? 4.54 Jan 24 fixed / changed how inverted crosspoints are made with STAR key added Headphone inverted crosspoints option using STAR key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 So how do I phase invert in the headphone setup on a Nomad please? It's either on or off and it doesn't say in the manual. You can phase invert a card track or an output but I can't find it for headphone monitoring. Press the star key when you're in the headphone setup page, that then gives you the option the select the "X" with a line on top of it, which is reverse phase. I think it was mentioned in the release notes of one of the updates, but not the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 OK thanks found it using the star key it was just that when it is selected and has a green background I cannot see the black crossbar at the top, when I move the selection off and it becomes blue I can see the black crossbar. It just looked identical to me until I de-selected it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted August 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 So how do I phase invert in the headphone setup on a Nomad please? It's either on or off and it doesn't say in the manual See page 57 in the updated nomad manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 See page 57 in the updated nomad manual Thanks I was looking at the January 2013 instead of May 2013 manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 " I was looking at the January 2013 instead of May 2013 manual. " another wonderful thing about www is that you can always find the latest information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundperson Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Nomad Lite. In the screen which you can assign the L-C-R, I assign all tracks which I use (tracks 1 to 6) to L only. I also used poly phase recording. But why is it when I download the mirror card into the laptop and opened the tracks into "Audacity" the tracks are sent to L-C-R at randomly. And when I use only 2 tracks, 1 is assigned to L and the other to the R channel? Bottom line is I want all my track to be sent to "one direction" only when played in Audacity (for example I want to see all tracks in the left side only). Anybody help me on this. Again , this is not in the manual. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 That is a setting issue in Audacity. I have encountered that sometimes. Sorry I don't use audicity enough to know the settings to change it without having it in front of me to play with it. But check in the left column there is a "panning" assignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Maybe you need to pan and not simple route to L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Remember that you have both output routing and track routing (as well as Mono, Tape, etc. routing). The stellar flexibility of the Nomad necessitates close attention and diligence when setting it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 " Bottom line is I want all my track to be sent to "one direction" " troubleshooting 101... maybe they are being output (Nomad) as you desire, but not being input (Audacity) as you desire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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