Michael McQueen Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 saw this on my twitter feed this morning. usb only? any luck with boom recorder going usb? i see a lot of board mixers nowadays only being usb. Yamaha Launches New 01V96i http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/yamaha_launches_new_01v96i_digital_mixer/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#When:13:08:40Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg sextro Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 As long as the computer you're using can "see" the mixer, i'm sure boom recorder will work with it. Perhaps Take will jump in to confirm. I'm rather surprised that the connection isn't firewire - that many channels, at 96k/24 bit seems like a lot of data to pass thru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Harber Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hopefully this version doesn't go the way of MLan which could have been great but wasn't realized. I love the idea of using a USB cable to jettison an interface. Scott Harber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Dreebin Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I could be wrong, but the 01V96 Ver.2 was replaced by the 01V96 VER, (effects added), then the newer 01V96i with the added capability of the USB.... They all I believe have added capability as the line moves on... I don't think anything is lost, just features added... since it is a hardware issue.... (USB) it is not upgradable through software... My little piggy runs hot normally, or very warm.... not too happy about the black, but who knows.... I still think this is by far the best bang for your buck mixer out there... hands down.... For you minimalist guys out there... (tiny cart guys and girls) not so much... I KNOW MANY ALREADY KNOW THIS BUT, a few may not... so... The shear amount of "stuff" that can be accomplished with the 01V96 is mind blowing... as is the learning curve.... at least for me.... whew.... but once learned, what a great piece of gear... It reminds me a bit of the huge amount of routing possibilities, and operational options of the Nomad, so much can be done, but on your console... routing, delay, comp./ Lim... (Like a DBX comp. /lim.? dial one up, it's there..Mocked version..)... pre set EQs (mics) or events (Scenes) (ever do a little live sound?), Set up the console for any type of gig, live or production sound... any configuration, save it as a scene, and recall it whenever you want, completely saves and puts everything in place the way you wanted it at the push of a few buttons.. For Mic EQ, just pull them up on your SEL button for a particular channel,, hit EQ, and pick your favorite mic.... You pre set them up the way you like a mic to sound, save the setting, name it (Senn. 416 for example, and your done...gets you to your pre set EQ point.... so fast and easy... You will now have a list of all your mics all saved.... throw a Sanken on someone on channel 4, hit SEL, EQ, roll to the page, and select Sanken... Done.. Very fast once you know how... Need delay for that pesky "video ahead of your audio for those watching on monitors?..Go to your Aux out for comteks, many options for your outputs..or the like, go to the delay page.... and simply dial up your delay until the people stop whining.... no "shark" necessary.... With all the pricy consoles out there, I love this one... it's size and the AC thing bugs people, not me, I always have AC... and I love the console, so I don't care about the size...at all... It's never bothered me... Oh yeah, it sounds great, headroom is fine as well, never any problems in that regard... Hope this was helpful for those that do not know about this console... for the price point, I may buy another one just because... keep my Ver. 2 as a backup... or for another cart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I could be wrong, but the 01V96 Ver.2 was replaced by the 01V96 VER, (effects added), then the newer 01V96i with the added capability of the USB.... They all I believe have added capability as the line moves on... I don't think anything is lost, just features added... since it is a hardware issue.... (USB) it is not upgradable through software... My little piggy runs hot normally, or very warm.... not too happy about the black, but who knows.... I still think this is by far the best bang for your buck mixer out there... hands down.... For you minimalist guys out there... (tiny cart guys and girls) not so much... I KNOW MANY ALREADY KNOW THIS BUT, a few may not... so... The shear amount of "stuff" that can be accomplished with the 01V96 is mind blowing... as is the learning curve.... at least for me.... whew.... but once learned, what a great piece of gear... It reminds me a bit of the huge amount of routing possibilities, and operational options of the Nomad, so much can be done, but on your console... routing, delay, comp./ Lim... (Like a DBX comp. /lim.? dial one up, it's there..Mocked version..)... pre set EQs (mics) or events (Scenes) (ever do a little live sound?), Set up the console for any type of gig, live or production sound... any configuration, save it as a scene, and recall it whenever you want, completely saves and puts everything in place the way you wanted it at the push of a few buttons.. For Mic EQ, just pull them up on your SEL button for a particular channel,, hit EQ, and pick your favorite mic.... You pre set them up the way you like a mic to sound, save the setting, name it (Senn. 416 for example, and your done...gets you to your pre set EQ point.... so fast and easy... You will now have a list of all your mics all saved.... throw a Sanken on someone on channel 4, hit SEL, EQ, roll to the page, and select Sanken... Done.. Very fast once you know how... Need delay for that pesky "video ahead of your audio for those watching on monitors?..Go to your Aux out for comteks, many options for your outputs..or the like, go to the delay page.... and simply dial up your delay until the people stop whining.... no "shark" necessary.... With all the pricy consoles out there, I love this one... it's size and the AC thing bugs people, not me, I always have AC... and I love the console, so I don't care about the size...at all... It's never bothered me... Oh yeah, it sounds great, headroom is fine as well, never any problems in that regard... Hope this was helpful for those that do not know about this console... for the price point, I may buy another one just because... keep my Ver. 2 as a backup... or for another cart... Well ..... that was weird... Me both posts... anyway, if the USB already exists on the console in a HARD fashion, why cant the software be updated to allow the recording through that already installed USB for data and software back-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well, the old 01V96 ver. 2 is USB 1.1, the new 01V96i is USB 2.0 so, no it can not be updated.... that comes from Yamaha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Here is what Yamaha has on it: Yamaha announces the release of the new 01V96i Digital Mixing Console Nov. 16, 2011 Shizuoka, Japan, November 16, 2011- The new 01V96i will be launched at InterBEE 2011, an international exhibition showcasing broadcast, video, audio and lighting equipment, held in Japan from November 16 through 18. Since its initial release in 1998, the 01V has been used in a wide variety of applications - both personal and professional - ranging from recording and production environments to live sound and installation setups. As this console has evolved over time, Yamaha has devoted itself to building a strong relationship with its customers in order to give them the features and improvements they need, enabling the 01V to remain the industry standard for compact digital mixers. Building on the proven configuration of its predecessors, the new 01V96i now offers USB 2.0 connectivity along with new multi-track recording features and improved sonic quality. High quality multi-track recording and playback via USB 2.0 connection The demand for multi-track recording in live sound applications is growing, and the 01V96i now features 16 in/16 out USB audio streaming at an impressive 96kHz, as well as multi-channel in/out via expansion card or ADAT. The addition of USB 2.0 makes high quality multi-track recording and playback faster and easier than ever, while providing full integration with every major ASIO and Core Audio DAW software?all with just a single connection. The 01V96i also comes bundled with the latest version of Steinberg’s Cubase AI, offering a comprehensive range of tools for recording, editing and mixing, and an intuitive interface that allows you to seamlessly execute every step of the recording process. Full suite of Yamaha VCM Effects and high resolution REV-X reverbs Yamaha's acclaimed Virtual Circuitry Modeling (VCM) technology offers you an impressive array of tonal colors, bringing the richness and warmth of analog sound to a digital recording environment. Miles ahead of other digital simulations of analog equipment, VCM plug-ins model the actual circuitry of the original effects units, right down to the last resistor and capacitor. In fact, the very same VCM effects and REV-X reverbs used with Yamaha’s top-of-the-line professional mixers now all come as standard, pre-installed and ready to use, so that you can enjoy warm, high quality analog sound without having to transport delicate outboard gear. 24bit/96kHz high quality sound and advanced fanctionality In addition to a class leading sampling rate of 24bit/96kHz, the 01V96i features newly improved, studio-quality head amps with high performance onboard 24bit/96kHz A/D and D/A converters. The 01V96i also shares all the functionality of its predecessor including precision 100mm motor faders, 99 scene memories for instant recall, and fully-configurable user defined keys to help users adapt to just about any studio or sound reinforcement environment. Kazunori Kobayashi, General Manager of the Yamaha Pro Audio Division had this to say about the 01V96i's upcoming release: “At Yamaha, we have always considered our continued correspondence with customers to be one of our most valuable assets in developing new products. The 01V96i is the embodiment of that philosophy, offering the versatility and reliability of current version while adding updated features and capabilities geared towards professional use. With this new console we are delighted to support a broader range of applications with a fully integrated, comprehensive system that in turn meets the growing needs and requirements of our customers.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 The tantalizing release doesn't mention any "improvement" in price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afewmoreyears Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 not going up is good enough for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 When a Japanese company, like Yamaha, improves the price, it is from their point of view! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Palmer Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 A good time to give a bump to the O1V96 Production Sound Users Group. It really is an amazing bang for buck option when choosing a mixing panel. The added I/O ability will be an interesting option for us in the field. http://o1v96psug.proboards.com/index.cgi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Having the console be the interface for MT recording on a computer would be a great thing....now, if they could only emulate the RME UFX and let you just hook up a drive to it, using its own recording app..... phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Harber Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 They are cheaper than they were 6 or so years ago when I got my last one. They come in at about $2k and change. Just took delivery today and keep thinking about changing over in the middle of our slow commercial day but.... patience. Scott Harber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacefivesound Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have always loved the yamaha line, as Mr. Harber knows all too well, from using DM2000s on reality shows. I'm curious about USB3 though. I was always told to NEVER use USB for real time data like recording sound, because USB bogged down the processor while firewire had it's own processing built into it's card. Does USB 3 solve this problem, or was i misinformed about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have always loved the yamaha line, as Mr. Harber knows all too well, from using DM2000s on reality shows. I'm curious about USB3 though. I was always told to NEVER use USB for real time data like recording sound, because USB bogged down the processor while firewire had it's own processing built into it's card. Does USB 3 solve this problem, or was i misinformed about this? My answer is that it's all in the firmware of the device. I record 24 channels of 24/48 audio with ease for hours and hours via USB2 on a JoeCo BBR. The same is true of RME's boxes, including the USB output of the UFX which can record 24 channels directly off the interface without a computer in the chain. I did not have such great luck with USB + laptop+interface in the same sort of config I used with firewire. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I like the Yamahas, too. One great thing about them is that the menus on all the various models (going back to the 02R) are kind of similar, so if you learn one, you can kind of fumble your way through the others. I really, really liked the ability to store presets in the 03D and the DM1000. The later mixers started providing the ability to put tons of delays in, which were very helpful in post when we had to deal with simultaneous HD and standard-def feeds for film dailies -- though this is no longer a factor in a file-based world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardo Santiago Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I've been using the O1V 96v2 on the cart for almost 5 years and I'd love to keep using it. USB I/O is a nice addition giving extra routing capabilities, etc. But I'd personally like to see an upgraded preamp allowing for higher dynamic range. Currently the O1V is passing gain at 105dB dynamic range, while most high end location sound gear offers preamps rated between 115-120dB. The extra headroom helps for those annoying "whisper whisper, LOUD LOUD" scenes we all hate, plus it certainly makes a difference with sound quality. When we mix with our yamaha panels giving us "110dB typ. DA Converter (STEREO OUT) / 105dB typ. AD+DA (to STEREO OUT) @fs=48kHz / 105dB typ. AD+DA (to STEREO OUT) @fs=96kHz (specifications off yamaha website)", we're working with 105dB of input gain that is clean, but compared to other location specific panels and location recorders with control surfaces, we're between 10-15dB short of the best possible performance. I've been thankful to be able to make it work for this long, with moments of cringing from time to time, but I would like to be able to raise the bar a bit while keeping the flexibility of the O1V. What do you guys think? E. Santiago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I've been using the O1V 96v2 on the cart for almost 5 years and I'd love to keep using it. USB I/O is a nice addition giving extra routing capabilities, etc. But I'd personally like to see an upgraded preamp allowing for higher dynamic range. Currently the O1V is passing gain at 105dB dynamic range, while most high end location sound gear offers preamps rated between 115-120dB. The extra headroom helps for those annoying "whisper whisper, LOUD LOUD" scenes we all hate, plus it certainly makes a difference with sound quality. When we mix with our yamaha panels giving us "110dB typ. DA Converter (STEREO OUT) / 105dB typ. AD+DA (to STEREO OUT) @fs=48kHz / 105dB typ. AD+DA (to STEREO OUT) @fs=96kHz (specifications off yamaha website)", we're working with 105dB of input gain that is clean, but compared to other location specific panels and location recorders with control surfaces, we're between 10-15dB short of the best possible performance. I've been thankful to be able to make it work for this long, with moments of cringing from time to time, but I would like to be able to raise the bar a bit while keeping the flexibility of the O1V. What do you guys think? E. Santiago Yup I agree, great interface workflow features etc, crappy pres. Yamaha needs a new engineer or to buy some tech off another company, Allen and Heath and Midas make fantastic pres for their boards but they don't compare to yamahas price or flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Yup I agree, great interface workflow features etc, crappy pres. Yamaha needs a new engineer or to buy some tech off another company, Allen and Heath and Midas make fantastic pres for their boards but they don't compare to yamahas price or flexibility. Glad to see I'm not the only Yammy pre hater here. Have you guys tried the DM1000 or 2000 then? It has a completely different micamp front end, built to spec for some European clients who focussed on classical music for one. I imagine the interface should be familiar enough for an "O" user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I have used the DM1000, and I appreciate the longer-throw motorized faders. Many, many, many buttons, which may be intimidating to some users, plus it's a huge mixer in terms of size (compared to the 01V96). I loved the presets, and it was a big improvement in sound quality and set up ease compared to the 03D, which I used for many years in post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Paine Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 This is an old thread, but I thought I would bring it back to life. I've been looking at the 01V96I as a possible replacement to my current Zaxcom Cameo. I have a gig coming up where I'm going to need more in and outs then the Cameo can handle. I've been torn between the 01V96I or the LS9-16. A local rental house has the LS9-16 as part of there rental fleet so I was going to give it go in a few weeks. But they don't rent the YDGAI cards. So, since my choices were down to the two Yamaha boards anyways, I figured I would buy the expansion card to use with the rental and then even if I decide to go with the 01V96I the card would still be of use. But, when I went to purchase the expansion card (MY16-AE) I was told there is no more stock and it is discontinued ! Apparently Yamaha says there is little demand for the AES format. I'm very happy with my recorder and it's digital input is AES, so I'm looking for another mixer solution. I suppose I could scour the internet to find some leftover stock, but if Yamaha is discontinuing cards with AES does this mean the format is being replaced by something else ? Dante ? SDI embeded audio ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Simon, Searching the web, I find that there are many third party companies that have the MY 16 AE in stock. http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-MY16AE-16-Channel-Digital-connectors/dp/B003BQITYY The Dante card will work well with a DAW, however if you re interfacing with a DEVA or SD or any other machine with an AES D- sub this card will be much more versatile. Of course the advantage of the 01V96i is the 16 digital I/O via USB to also connect to many computer DAW programs. You could also check with Trew Audio, LSC, TAI and many other sound related sales companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefilosa Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Regarding perceived deficiencies with the O196One active member here has reported having long-term great results using the built-in DBX-160 "simulator" efx on mic channels. I happened in on a studio comedy series here locally (dedicated control room, not cart) where the mixer utilized the Aphex 188 eight channel preamp in his setup - I was stunned by the quality I was hearing on his monitor speakers. I'm not sure how much additional draw it would have on ones' cart power-scheme, but certainly worth a look / hear.... http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/188/ MF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Paine Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Richard, Thanks. yes you are correct, I have found other sources with stock of the MY16AE card. I guess I was more contemplating what it means (if anything) that a company as large as Yamaha is discontinuing the production of the AES card. Does it mean we are moving to a different standard ? Or is it simply the music industry and/or home studio market that is not interested in the AES products anymore and Yamaha is trying to target that market. Still, the 01v96 looks to be a good choice and I look forward to learning the ins and outs of that very capable machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Simon, you do see the Yamaha AES card up on eBay every so often: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-MY16AE-Mini-YGDAI-Digital-AES-I-O-expansion-card-for-02R96-01V96i-NEW-/110936820740?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d4598c04#ht_500wt_1153 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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