Jeremy Childers Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 What does the "f" stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymz Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I believe it stands for "flat" as in "flat response". Very rare variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Hoppe Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 It does stand for Flat as in flat response. I've had one for a while now. I bought it used, and after a trip to Sennheiser, it sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 The 416T-F is a T-powered 416 that has a flat response instead of the curved response (high-mid freq boost, low freq roll-off) of the regular 415 and 416. The "F" version is rare because the market did not embrace it, and Sennheiser stopped making it soon after they started. As I recall, the F version can be reversed to have the 416's normal curve. The reason the 416 has the shaped response that it has is not an accident or a mistake, but intentional for the application for which it was designed (pointing at an actor from an overhead angle at a distance on a boom pole). A very directional mic like the 416 is made to get a distant voice to sound closer than it actually is. When people used the 416F (whether 12T or 48ph) on the end of a pole 4 feet away from an actor, except for the reduced off-axis noise and increased low freq ambience (see below), they weren't happy that it sounded like it was 4 feet away. Also, since the interference tube design of shotgun mics like the 416 rejects the high and mid freqs much more than the low freqs (below 150Hz it is nearly an omni mic), the 416F makes the low freq ambience seem louder than it actually is. This is one advantage of the fixed low freq roll-off of the 416. Glen Trew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 More on the F variant: Sennheiser had a lot of requests for a model to record music at a distance, as well as sport's sounds. It is not typically used for production sound dialog recording.That target market did not embrace it, though folks who have them like them for special purposes where the standard response curve is not appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Childers Posted December 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Thanks so much guys!! good to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikro Addict Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 11/22/2011 at 12:54 AM, Glen Trew said: The 416T-F is a T-powered 416 that has a flat response instead of the curved response (high-mid freq boost, low freq roll-off) of the regular 415 and 416. The "F" version is rare because the market did not embrace it, and Sennheiser stopped making it soon after they started. As I recall, the F version can be reversed to have the 416's normal curve. The reason the 416 has the shaped response that it has is not an accident or a mistake, but intentional for the application for which it was designed (pointing at an actor from an overhead angle at a distance on a boom pole). A very directional mic like the 416 is made to get a distant voice to sound closer than it actually is. When people used the 416F (whether 12T or 48ph) on the end of a pole 4 feet away from an actor, except for the reduced off-axis noise and increased low freq ambience (see below), they weren't happy that it sounded like it was 4 feet away. Also, since the interference tube design of shotgun mics like the 416 rejects the high and mid freqs much more than the low freqs (below 150Hz it is nearly an omni mic), the 416F makes the low freq ambience seem louder than it actually is. This is one advantage of the fixed low freq roll-off of the 416. Glen Trew So where does one get it modded to the regular curve and P48 conversion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Rowand Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I'd start here: http://www.416tupgrade.com/416Tupgrade.com.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Immoral Mr Teas Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I'd probably keep the F myself ... Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Sennheiser’s “F” versions were intended to compete with Neumann’s KMR81 and 82 microphones which were regarded as being flatter microphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 I have a matched pair of MKH 416T-F microphones. When I worked in sound recording, I used them for location sound and music recording. There were never any complaints about the quality of the sound, film dialog, sound effects, music, etc., recorded with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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