Davideo Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 One of my big purchases for 2012 will be a second SRa receiver and two more SMQVs. My current SRa is on block 21, and here in northern NJ I’ve found block 21 to be incredibly vacant. I’ve used it all over NJ, NYC and Philly, and never had any problems with interference (of course I always scan the frequencies first.) It will be used in a bag holding 2 SRa’s (with a Lectro Quad Pack) and a Nomad 6 which (surprise, surprise) I don’t have yet. So why shouldn’t I buy another SRa on the same block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McQueen Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 i bought 2 on the same block for the option of dual camera hop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I like the mix and match capabilites you build with multiple systems on the same block (and if it works well for you, all the better)... later you can add, for example, a plug-on TX or a waterproof pack TX, and maybe even a single RX... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davideo Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Thanks, Senator, that's exactly what I was thinking. I already have an HM butt plug on 21 as well. Am thinking of an extra waterproof MM400c... And when will you go back to just <HAT>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 On the other hand I has multiples SRa on block 21 ( 4 ) and I had a hard time finding freqencies for all te tx. I have since swapped to all different block with an empty block in between each receivers. I, now , have a system that plays really nice with itself an also lots of alternatives when I go to new places. This is where the front end tracking I the UCR411a is a bonus. It narrows the open rf window of the receiver from the full block ( 25mhz ) to a narrow 5mhz thus you can have more tx with less issues. That's also where the SRa is not as good, and works so much better with a block separation plan. Pascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Why put all your eggs in one basket? What if you fined yourself in a city or country that isn't as block 21 friendly. If you had a different block you would have more options of available frequencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Goldberger Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Interesting that you're doing so well with your block 21s in North Jersey, because here in Manhattan block 21 has become very difficult to use. I've actually been thinking of switching to block 19 for my hops. I would be wary of investing more in block 21 right now, just based on my experiences the past few years. I'd also personally go for a different block then you have so that you could use them as camera hops as well as extra talent mics. You will not find anyone who doesn't like block 26 in NYC. E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 " Why put all your eggs in one basket? " after 4 (or 2 x SR) I'd make my 3rd SR on a different block, an then build up additional mix and match capabilities... But that is just me; I've never had trouble finding 4 freq's, and I alsways separate my TX's for hops from my RX's for inputs... again that is what works for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Block 21 might not be the best choice for a bag with the Nomad. See this recent thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davideo Posted January 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Block 21 might not be the best choice for a bag with the Nomad. Yep - I remember that thread. I will surely test my current SRa block 21 carefully when I get my Nomad. And thanks everybody for your responses. This site is the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I use 2 21 SR RX and a 24 hop. Like the senator said like having options. On a previous shoot I used them to send 4 channel Iso to 2 cameras. P.S. I am really concerned about block 21 and Nomad. Mike did you test the Nomad/bl21 Lectros again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I did a scan with a block 21 SRa and it looks very similar to Mike's results with the Nomad turned on respectively off. It remains to be seen though how much the range actually suffers from the RF spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 1 bar spray = 50% reduction in range. However 3 bars still 50% less range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I had one pixel almost everywhere, like two free frequencies. I suppose the range will still be okay, and if I use it for wireless hop there shouldn't be any problems. Still, I wish the Nomad didn't have that RF activity in block 21 of all blocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 " 1 bar spray = 50% reduction in range " which 1 ? actually not my typical experience... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Cris have you tried physical separation between the rx and the nomad? Senator LarryF told me about the 1 bar =50% less range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Senator LarryF told me about the 1 bar =50% less range? Hmmmmm - that's interesting. I've been in situations where I had no other option than to select a frequency that had one or two pixels on the scan and I would get reasonable range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Me too. But if you go back and check Mike's picture of his scan, it looks pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Me too. But if you go back and check Mike's picture of his scan, it looks pretty bad. Yeh but his scan was way more than one or two pixels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 " a frequency that had one or two pixels on the scan and I would get reasonable range. " I've used frequencies that had one or two pixels on the scan and I would get great range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Cris have you tried physical separation between the rx and the nomad? Senator LarryF told me about the 1 bar =50% less range? not really since my SRa power cable is quite short. I will do that as soon as I can. One thought I had was that when I tested the SRa was on the right side of the Nomad (close to the display), as was Mike's 21 SRa (if I recall right), as opposed to the block 20 Sra which had almost no interference (Nomad RF thread), which was placed away from the display. Might it have to do with the display? Sending out stronger RF? I will check as soon as I have the time. Anyways, on the first test there were plenty frequencies with just one pixel. This discussion with the scan results is of course quite theoretical, so practical walk tests to determine range differences would surely be the best we can do. But heck, who has the time for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 The main reason to use the same block would be if you flip your kit as a camera hop and want to feed two cameras with on set of TXs. Maybe 2 years ago I did a whole bunch of jobs on prosumer cameras (no TC) that they wanted me to feed my audio to two cameras. I have not done it in a while, but I think it's more a coincidence than a trend. If this is just to build a back-happy kit, then I would definitely split the blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nault Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 i bought 2 on the same block for the option of dual camera hop +1 I bought 2 in the same block to have more options for mixing and matching... works very well. I probably don't have to yet, but I'll select pre-coordinated frequencies, and everything's working just fine. Maybe get a different block if your kit grows past the 2nd SR. Cheers, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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