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There are already options where you can give the AI a badly recorded spoken word and it will almost make a studio sound out of it... it doesn't work 100%, but it will for sure very soon. It's not just a complete AI-generated sound.
      Very soon, only a sound engineer with a small recorder and a microphone will simply be enough (perhaps in exceptional situations a lav mic will come in handy). But of course a lot of stupid TV series etc. will be all AI.
      I don't really accept the simplification, as has already been said here, the comparison to the development of a car (and the like). If the cars came, "only" the people around the horses lost their jobs, but it gave work to a lot of others around the cars. Whereas thanks to AI, a huge number of people will lose their jobs - not just the film industry, and the profit from AI will be a few companies in the world, but huge.

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6 hours ago, IronFilm said:

But what if the tools make it is so easy a monkey could operate it? (even a cameraman...)

This is arguably already the case.  There's plenty of camerapeople who can mount and operate lavs, especially in the doc world where minimizing crew size matters a great deal for keeping subjects comfortable.  Yet I keep getting hired to work with these camerapeople, because it's not just about ease of use.  I get hired not just because I know how to use microphones and other sound equipment, but because of the judgements I make on set about how they are used.  A cameraperson can't make these judgements — it's simply not possible for a cameraperson to simultaneously do a good job of camera and sound at the same time because it requires splitting attention across two domains.  Just because a cameraperson (or a director) has the technical skills (or lack thereof) to use the tools, doesn't mean that they are in a position to make best use of those tools while they are also focussed on their primary responsibility. 

That's why they hire me.  I'm hired because someone needs to be responsible for making the choices about what is heard when a scene is recorded.  AI may make it possible for those decisions to be made in post, but, either way, someone still needs to be responsible for making those judgments.  And, most of the time, it will be a more efficient use of resources to pay a sound specialist to make those judgements in consultation with the director rather than heaping it all on the director's plate.

Of course there will be some cases where directors want to change specific things (or entire performances) in post, and AI will allow them to do that.  But most directors only want that degree of control in a limited fashion — they don't want to make literally every choice about sound in every second of footage.  They want the ability to fix and change specific things that don't match their directorial vision, but generally they don't want to have to conjure their vision ex nihilo.  And most producers *definitely* don't want to pay for the time and labour it takes to do that.
 

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11 hours ago, humbuk said:

There are already options where you can give the AI a badly recorded spoken word and it will almost make a studio sound out of it... it doesn't work 100%, but it will for sure very soon. It's not just a complete AI-generated sound.
      Very soon, only a sound engineer with a small recorder and a microphone will simply be enough (perhaps in exceptional situations a lav mic will come in handy). But of course a lot of stupid TV series etc. will be all AI.

Exactly, it is possible (but not certain, nothing is) that in the future the audio you hear will be entirely (or at least mostly) AI generated. Won't just be for an odd word or two here or there being replaced (but that is how it will start), but for entire scripts!

 

The primary question for me ("if" this will be happening that is), is what will this timeline be like of this complete takeover? 

Within 5yrs? Very unlikely I think.

Within 10yrs or 20hrs? I dunno. 

Within my working lifespan? "Probably" I suspect. 

 

Pinning down a specific time for when this shift will happen is very tricky though. Who knows. 

 

9 hours ago, The Documentary Sound Guy said:


Of course there will be some cases where directors want to change specific things (or entire performances) in post, and AI will allow them to do that.  But most directors only want that degree of control in a limited fashion — they don't want to make literally every choice about sound in every second of footage.  

 

No different than the relationship between a Director and a Color Grader (or any of many other post production roles). 

 

They don't give specific detailed instructions for how each pixel looks at each and every second of the footage, they give broad instructions for how the feeling of the scene should look (or in our case, sound) and feel. And the Color Grader executes that vision. Then if further changes are needed, extra feedback can be given.

 

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3 hours ago, IronFilm said:

The primary question for me ("if" this will be happening that is), is what will this timeline be like of this complete takeover? 

Within 5yrs? Very unlikely I think.

Within 10yrs or 20hrs? I dunno. 

Within my working lifespan? "Probably" I suspect. 

 

Pinning down a specific time for when this shift will happen is very tricky though. Who knows. 

I think very soon... those technologies already work and are here. So far, not in such a quality that it would completely put sound engineers out of business, but it certainly cannot take decades to fine-tune the technology. I'm guessing a year or two - I'm a life pessimist :).
    But I think that then, as with all technologies, people will get tired of them and will want quality handwork again, but I won't live to see that again :).

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