Wisycom Audio recovery software

[Bernat Gras]

Hello everyone,

I would like to know what software you use to recover audio from Wisycom MTP61 transmitters. Wisycom does not have any proprietary app to perform this process smoothly, and I would like to know how you approach the recovery of signal drop from the transmitter packs.

Thank you very much!

 

[fieldsound]

To answer your question, I think the best approach for managing these files would be using free utility called Wave Agent (to edit, re-stripe TC, generate relevant sound reports). Alternatively, although I haven't used it, Viviana Cloud seems to be quite a powerful tool for file management, but requires hardware. I understand Aaton also has a utility for this type of thing but I haven't used it. Would love to hear any alternatives that I am not aware of.

As an aside: personally, I now only record backup files for my own peace of mind and do not deliver these recordings along with the dailies. During the course of the production, if there is any issue with the recordings on my 833 or something gets missed (extremely rare), I will send that specific backup recording directly to editorial/post. I find delivering backup recordings requires some amount of hand holding with post and is only worth it (for me) in situations of great importance.

That being said, I recently worked second unit on a doc with a seasoned union DIT. He informed me that it is conventional for sound dept to bring their own computer and organize all sound files to a single SD card for ingestion when delivering bodypack recordings. To be sure, managing metadata across multiple cards increases the complexity of our deliverables quite a bit and any solutions that can make it easier are welcomed. 

[Philip Perkins]

It's only conventional for sound dept.s to do data management if they are being paid conventional wages to do it, ie compensated for the extra time involved.  Data management should not be free, unless it is very simple.  I can imagine a conversation with an AD along the lines of "would you like me to manage and package up all my data and reports for a mid-day upload or would you like me to record the scene you are getting ready to shoot?"  Further: "you've pushed the shooting down to the last minute of the regular crew-day, would you like me to do some data management for OT wages?".   I have asked this question many times, the answer is almost always "no", because the data manager is going to stay on the clock anyway to deal with the pile of camera files.   Sound data they can do on the side while they deal with picture.

[fieldsound]

Philip --I completely agree. I'll be honest, I was a bit surprised by this DIT's perspective because I thought that any ingestion would fall under the purview of their responsibility... but then again, so far in my career I'm living in the non-union world where every production has its own eccentricities and some have no DIT at all. 

[The Documentary Sound Guy]

Your DIT is out to lunch.  I could understand hearing that from a small-set DP who is offloading his own footage and doesn't want to be stuck with doing sound as well (and he'll be charging OT himself).  If there's a DIT hired specifically, yes, they are part of camera dept., but it's become conventional for them to become the delivery path for sound as well.  As far as I'm concerned, if they are going to play that middle-man role, it's also their role to keep things organized.

 

Data wrangling absolutely adds time to the end of the day, and it doesn't make sense for anyone in the sound team to be managing it when there's a DIT on set.

I think you've run into some departmental politics because the DIT reports to camera, not sound, but what he's telling you isn't the rule where I come from.

[JonG]

Remember that DITs were in the sound union 695 before camera, 600, stole them from us. They do not report to camera, their job is to wrangle data. Any extra camera department duties they do is something that’s been added to their principal duties since their abduction. 

[The Documentary Sound Guy]

News to me.  Does it work that way everywhere?

[Wandering Ear]

I rarely have to pull cards from my zax wireless, but when I choose to I have no problem popping it into my laptop and converting it into a wav file, naming the roll correctly and handing that off to the DIT.  I’m not managing their delivery drives etc, but since I have to convert it from a proprietary format, I consider that step to be part of my job. I just sit at my cart and do it as the first part of my wrap as my team works on wrapping the rest. I don’t ask for permission, I just get it done, and my wrap is done when I’m off the truck. 

[Fred Salles]

Note that the original post is asking about how to handle the MTP61 files (not any other data). The MTP61 does not allow physical card extraction so one has to transfer the files to a card via mag to usb cable or the LBC61. 
I would avoid as much as possible to hand over the MTP61 to the data wrangler or DIT. So I have to do the transfer. 
So far for files recorded occasionally on an rx (mostly MTP60) I have done like Fieldsound.  I back up at the end of the shoot and deliver to post on FTP with all additional sounds I have recorded off set or when I managed to get booked additional days for ambient recording. It allows me to organise the files as I want including renaming. 
But I never had to record on tx on a regular basis or as a main recorder. That would be another discussion  I guess. And probably involve OT yes. 
The few times I recorded fx or specific sounds on tx during set was on MTP60 so I was able to hand over the card to DIT. 
 

On 3/14/2025 at 2:02 PM, Bernat Gras said:

Hello everyone,

I would like to know what software you use to recover audio from Wisycom MTP61 transmitters.

 

“Recover” do you mean when there is a file missing or corrupt? I use “disk drill “ for that. 
Otherwise the basic transfer does not require specific software since files are already wav and the mtp61 is seen as an external drive by the computer. You can use Teracopy on PC if you want checksum verification.
I use wave agent for renaming files if needed after backup.