Philip Perkins Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 30 minutes ago, tourtelot said: I can add one to the list. From Wiki: Big World is a 1986 live album of original songs by Joe Jackson.[4] The album was recorded in front of an invited audience at the Roundabout Theatre, East 17th Street in New York City on 23, 24 and 25 January 1986 (except "Man in the Street", recorded during rehearsals on 22 January). The songs are loosely linked by lyrics covering a general theme of post-World War II international relations and global travel. I was hired to record those shows on my Nagra X4S ("Harvey Board") and QGB 10 1/2" reel adapter. I recorded the 2-mix from the truck and "universal time code" from the production. IIRC, there were a number of the Denecke TS-Grande displays scattered about for the non-TC 35mm cameras to shoot after a reload. It was a super-fun coupla days. D. That's the way it was done then. Did many myself the same way, with combos of IV-STCs and Harveyized IV-SLs. The latter was a superior device to the former in every way. Harvey Warnke RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Immoral Mr Teas Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 On 2/8/2023 at 2:14 AM, Koyama said: Are these real? No, but one thing IS certain - its versatility made it a popular choice with recording engineers and producers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted February 10 Author Report Share Posted February 10 Koyama, Thanks for your post. Just so you know, when I answered your post the other day, I was away on a trip. I wrote my comment in notes on my iPhone and then copied/pasted it to Jwsound. After I got home I saw that my post was in super large bold 28pt text. (what an idiot) sorry about that. Even now after correcting it, I'ts still double-spaced. I wasn't making a statement or anything, the size was just a mistake since I have my phone set to a larger text and was unaware of the consequences of transferring to a JWSOUND post. It looked somewhat normal on my phone. "are these real?" I was the same way as you after first learning about Nagra's use in recording. I was uncertain as to what extent Nagra recorders played in movies and sound. JWSOUND-Men made it clear to me what Nagra's role in movie history was. I think your list originally meant Nagra recorders and not just the IV-S, if you add Nagra III, IV-L, and 4.2 it will probably cover everything on the list. When I bought my IV-STC many years ago I asked the Soundman from whom I bought it if he could tell me what movies and music were recorded with it. He sent me a list of movies and music that he recorded. Here are some of the music videos he recorded. 1) Aerosmith "Janie got a Gun" Live version 2) Georgia Satellites ' Keep you Hand to Yourself" 3) Drivin and Cryin "Fly Courageous" 4) Stuck Mojo "Rising" 5) Outkast " Miss Jackson" 6) Elton John " The Circle of Life" 7) Arrested Development "Tennesse" and "Mr. Wendel" Smashing Pumpkins "Live at Six Flags" 9) Bloodhound Gang "Fire Water Burn" 10) Xscape "Just Kickn It" If you own a used Nagra recorder, you can be sure something of importance was professionally recorded on it at some point in time. I don't mean opening up Christmas presents with the family kind of stuff, I mean famous movies, music, interviews, TV commercials, and music videos. For sure the Nagra III was used by the Beatles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted February 10 Author Report Share Posted February 10 I believe the ChatGPT used "Nagra IV-S" and combined IV-S with all model Nagras. It should have known the date the IV-S was manufactured. I have to be honest I had no idea what ChatGPT was until I just looked into it further. I thought it was just another type of Wikipedia where people like you and I type in what we think we know. Ask how it determines correct information from false information when there is so much false information about every subject on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, JBond said: "Ask how it determines correct information from false information when there is so much false information about every subject on the internet." The simple answer is that ChatGPT cannot differentiate the validity, true or false, of the data sources it is drawing on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted February 11 Author Report Share Posted February 11 Jeff, your simple answer sums it up. That was an experience talking with chatGPT. It does not get its current information from searching the internet but from a database in its programming. It can be influenced as you can see below. After I corrected the Nagra III date it lists 50's 60's 70's but now it knows 1958 for the Nagra III. The dates of the Nagra's were all off every time I asked for specific dates. Finally, since it did not know the correct dates it just said the approximate dates. For the next year, it will be sucking up every bit of information from everyone then it will be unstoppable and scary, because who is doing the programming. My questions Can you list the years and models of the Nagra recorders? So of course the dates were off in Koyama posts, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted February 11 Author Report Share Posted February 11 My friend Chat did a good job writing a Nagra Song which I asked for. 5 seconds later voila. Of course, I will take joint credit. Hey, I asked! Wow! the possibilities are endless. Think of commercials and advertising people. Not to mention people in the music industry. Kids in school! Nobody will ever have to do anything ever again. That can't be good. It took 5 seconds and it's written down just copy and paste. The Nagra Song by Chat&Bond.😎 Chat also booked a gig for us at Radio City in New York, on Sept 23, 2023 and I didn't even ask 😳 The Nagra Song byChat&Bond Verse 1: In the world of sound recording, there's a name you need to know Nagra, Swiss-made, a classic that's aglow With its precision, clarity, and durability A tape recorder that's second to none, Chorus: Nagra, the sound of excellence, the gold standard for all to see Nagra, capturing memories, preserving history With its timeless design and iconic look Nagra, the tape recorder that's always in the books Verse 2: From the film sets to the studios, Nagra's been the choice For the professionals who want to hear their voice With its compact size and portable design Nagra's the tape recorder that's always in line Chorus: Nagra, the sound of excellence, the gold standard for all to see Nagra, capturing memories, preserving history With its timeless design and iconic look Nagra, the tape recorder that's always in the books Bridge: From its early days to the present time Nagra's legacy will always shine With its commitment to quality and craftsmanship Nagra, a name that's synonymous with excellence Chorus: Nagra, the sound of excellence, the gold standard for all to see Nagra, capturing memories, preserving history With its timeless design and iconic look Nagra, the tape recorder that's always in the books Outro: So when you're in the market for a tape recorder that's top-notch Remember Nagra, the one that will never stop With its classic style and timeless sound Nagra, is the tape recorder that will always be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Reeves Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Aloha, for your information an original Nagra 111 from 1958 sits in Location Sound in North Hollywood. What a fantastic recorder. I have recorded on various Nagras well over hundreds of tapes from mono to stereo , you can still record acceptable sounds on early Nagra recorders. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyama Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Wow! Thank you all for your responses and especially for the fact check! Obviously chatgpt needs to do much more homework about history, And if one day the Chatgpt is coming for a job as a history teacher, we should be cautious in dealing with it. I was just hit by an inspiration that, if one day AI takes control of everything, and it must also compile "history" for those who obey it. Fragments of various events are stitched together through vague language and also videos by deep fake. In a sense, this is like a dream, which also happens to fit with the art form of cinema -- these people just live in cinema. The Resistance, however, refused to accept the "dream" made by AI. They use physical, linear recording approaches to avoid the Information Contamination from AI, like tapes, films (as a fundamentalist resistance fighter, disk-based storage media is not allowed). The scroll would be an important intent, and all the ways the Resistance would record would be based on it (their writing was also recorded on scrolls, not pages of books) ... ... The ending is pessimistic, because in any case the resistance is trapped inside the cinema by us ... ... Sounds like a weird low-budget sci-fi script. Basically off the topic of this post. Just for fun:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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