daniel Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 To avoid the ear fatigue of wearing closed-back headphones (and in situations where i can get away with it) i'd like to add some open-back HPs to my collection. I generally used sennheiser HD25s and sony 7506s, I also like (but don't own) dt250s. Oh yeah, they need to be circumaural as I have big sticky out ears (another reason why hd25s are fatiguing for me). atb, dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg sextro Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 The problem with open back headphones is that they won't isolate well, and might bleed too much audio to the outside world. Best option is to monitor at lower volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Robot Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I don't know of any situation in which open back headphones are acceptable for our line of work. It occurs to me that the only time you'd be able to use them would be in situations with higher background noise/ambience. Then, since they are open back, you are going to have to turn them up louder to hear what you are doing, and will therefor be creating a counterproductive situation where your risk of both headphone bleed into the mix and ear fatigue goes up. I think Greg has the right idea. Best bet is to rest your ears whenever possible. For run and gun situations I use a Rip Tie carabiner attached to the shoulder portion of my VersaFlex harness so I can take the headphones off very quickly and still have easy access to them once they are in the Rip Tie. It allows me to rest my ears more often when it's appropriate on set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 To avoid the ear fatigue of wearing closed-back headphones (and in situations where i can get away with it) i'd like to add some open-back HPs to my collection. I generally used sennheiser HD25s and sony 7506s, I also like (but don't own) dt250s. Oh yeah, they need to be circumaural as I have big sticky out ears (another reason why hd25s are fatiguing for me). atb, dan. The Sennheiser HD600 have a nice sound and are very comfortable headphones, but is too risky use open headphones. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Andrews Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I don't know of any situation in which open back headphones are acceptable for our line of work. Might get away with it in location where the mixer is cart based and in a well isolated room away from the set? Not an everyday occurrence for many of us. A non-soundie friend of mine has a pair of the Sennheiser HD650s open backs which to my ears have a lovely clarity to the sound. If I win the lottery tomorrow I might even buy a pair for home use. He also has a pair of HD595 which are sound very similar, just slightly lower impedance. ~Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Robot Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Might get away with it in location where the mixer is cart based and in a well isolated room away from the set? Not an everyday occurrence for many of us. A non-soundie friend of mine has a pair of the Sennheiser HD650s open backs which to my ears have a lovely clarity to the sound. If I win the lottery tomorrow I might even buy a pair for home use. ~Mark. Very good point. Most of my work is run and gun, & when I do work with a boom operator I am very close so I didn't even think of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Between the HD650 and HD600 is just a taste matter, some prefer the HD600 and some the HD650 (I prefer the HD600), and the nearest cousin is the HD580 (discontinued) that is a HD600 without the metal grilles (Have a plastic ones) (Is easily found in eBay). IMMO the HD595 is in other league (lower league). I'm using the HD600 on location music recording (in other room) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Might get away with it in location where the mixer is cart based and in a well isolated room away from the set? Not an everyday occurrence for many of us. ~Mark. This is exactly the circumstance to which i refer when I say - "in situations where I can get away with it." IE. something close to where you might use near field monitors but would prefer an even closer solution. And it is indeed a rare occurrence for most of us but something I am exploring as I look to be in these very circumstances for 12 hours x 50 or so days. Thanks for the responses so far. Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Flaitz Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I've been using the HD600s for audio post for quite some time and I like them quite a bit. Many people say they are uncomfortable but I've not found this to be the case, either way I'd test them first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper Magnusson Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Don't bother with open phones on set - closed that gives you isolation and then lowering the volume is much better (I sometimes leave my headphones on with no volume just to rest my ears). I own a pair of HD580 and HD595, and would definately give a nod to the former between the two. However there are many options out there for home use or editing. You can find an overabundant amount of information over at head-fi.org, as long as you're not allergic to deep reviews full of audiophile terms and endless comparisons discussing small nuances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 " And it is indeed a rare occurrence for most of us " thus most of us have little or no experience with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benr Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 If youve gotta have open back, check out the Sennheiser HD-598's. I do own a pair of HD-650's and while they are amazing for music I wouldnt dream of using them in the field. They dont seem rugged enough to and they are VERY NOT sound isolating and would probably show in your recording! FWIW I have a set of the Denon AH-D5000 cans and while those are listed as closed back, they are very poor at sound isolating. Amazing sounding, but again, not for location sound capturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 " And it is indeed a rare occurrence for most of us " thus most of us have little or no experience with them... I fear, because i quoted my original question and my (accidental) use of 18pt instead of 14pt in my last post may have suggested that i was frustrated by responses to the topic. If my post gave that impression it was not my intention and i am very sorry. I very much appreciate ALL the responses so far and i was aware my original post could have been clearer (hence the 2nd post comparing the context of the headphones use to near field monitors). And even if i've only managed to offend our dear tomtenisse with my ignorance and flippant use of the "Post" button i am sorry. Perhaps it would be possible to build into the site a "pre-post, send-to-senator" button as a quality control function:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I'm not offended... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 motivated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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