thope Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 After taking so much inspiration from this site when designing my new cart I'd thought I'd post some work in progress pictures of where I'm at. I based my cart on 2 carts I likes the most... Thanks simon and devendra! I'll post more in the next week with an explanation of how it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I think the cart looks great! I really like what you have done with the wheeled base --- this has not been done often before where the base frame is sized almost exactly like the case that it supports. This provides a much more integrated approach, I think, than the standard case-based carts that usually look like a cart that has a case set on top. I like the inset flush rear wheels also. I think the only thing you lose doing it this way is being able to put the back lid on while it is sitting on the base. It looks like the uprights would restrict putting the back lid on. Front lid access (important) looks good. Also, is the case a shockmount-style case? Do you intend to ship the case loaded with the gear? Lastly, is the base steel or aluminum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I like it. Similar to mine in that the base and rack create flat sides. Great for strapping in to trucks. Mine is a "side address" rack cart, allowing easy access to the back. I like being able to keep the back door on. Keeps the dust out. I think you may discover that this will be heavy when loaded with gear, also like mine. You may find the little wheels will make getting around quite hard on some stages and/or locations. But the design is very efficient. I like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thope Posted February 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Hi guys thanks for your thoughts / comments. The cart is designed around not having the lids on during operation. The butterfly clasps that hold the lids on will mate with clasps yet to be welded on the steel frame. That's what supports the rack case onto the frame. I don't intended to access the rear during operation. There is my power distro and a patch panel at the back and I'll cover the remaining rack spaces with blank panels to kelp out the dust. The job I'm building it for requires filming on a train as well as a few quick turn around plane trips, so yeah my intention was to keep most of the gear racked for flights ( ill take out the fusion ). No doubt it's going to be on the heavy side but iv just had to come to terms with that! It's in getting power coated so I'll post more in about a week once I've got it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devendra Cleary Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Looks great! I like the shock foam. Little shock protection without making the case huge. Nice work! -D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 It is a really nice cart. Like Robert, I think you will regret the wheel size. The cart handles also seem a little low and short. I realize this opinion of mine is after a lot of work but I also think feedback should be honest. Enjoy the new cart. Looks very "Pro". CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark LeBlanc Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I'm guessing you work mostly on hard surfaces? Those small wheels/narrow wheel base would look to make it difficult to move on grass or other outdoor surfaces or on a slope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnathan Sessoms Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I'm diggin' the orange! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thope Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 You guys may be right. I tried to find the biggest wheels that would still fit inside the frame. I never really considered if that would make it hard to move. I'll see how it goes. I can ways extend the axel Nd out bigger wheels on later. Crew, I think I'm pretty low and short too !! Cause the handles are at the tight height for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'm not so sure the small inboard wheels will be as much of a problem as some of you may be indicating. My cart no. 4 (17 movies in every kind of location and terrain) has very small wheels and they are even more inset than the ones pictured here. It is true that my cart was not as tall and also probably had to support a lot less weight. I wouldn't worry about it right now --- continue the build and if it turns out to be a problem you will just have to re-work the base. My cart no. 4 is pictured below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 My wheel reference was about diameter not the inboard location. I'm sure he will get the cart where ever he needs to go. I just think it's easier w bigger wheels. Still a nice cart. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim M Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Nice design, I hope by the time I'm CrewC's age that I'll be mixing on one of these, if of course I haven't been killed by one yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Paine Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 looks like a great design ! did you make the frame out of Aluminium or steel ? I went with aluminium to save weight. I also just recently added an access panel in the back of my case. I only had the patch bay at first, but having the access panel makes it so much easier to gain access to the back of the gear. I would highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thope Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 The access panel is a good idea for sure. I'll keep the lid at the back off. Maybe I'll put one of those access panels at the back. I went with the thinnest steel that would still be strong enough. I'm hoping to throw the steel frame in the cargo hold of a plane as is , so felt aluminium might not fare as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollandaudio Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Great Design. It seems the case with rack rails is becoming popular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefilosa Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Even better than rack rail - he is using DATA rack rails - and there is probably a better term for them, but I don't know it. Rob Stalder uses these on his fine line of Rastorder Carts, and I am a proud / ecstatic owner of one. These will never need replacing or suffer any rail damage from improper screws or screw accidents, as they hold "Cage Nuts". Cage Nuts lock into those squares, and provide the "threaded bolt" to screw your gear into. If anything needs changing or gets damaged or "buzzed up" in any way, you just replace the Cage Nut. If for some reason you want to use different screws or a different threading, you just replace the cage nut. I think Rob is on the other side of that huge island / continent. I'm betting that Data Racks are far more common in professional sound and video installations in Australia than they are here. MF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thope Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 My previous and much loved cart was one of rob stalders carts. They are indeed fine carts. What other kind of rack rails are there ? I've been in audio since "96 and never come across rack rails that didn't use a caged nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ragon Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 This design is very similar to my cart.. Basically, an SKB case on top of a small frame, with wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixalot Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Is that a shotgun mic hanging on the side of your cart? It looks like one of those automatic ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefilosa Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 This design is very similar to my cart.. Basically, an SKB case on top of a small frame, with wheels. Richard - is the bottom supporting cart your design? How is it for balance? Looks great, and I like the (what appears to be a ...) handle bar near the front wheels... MF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thope Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 So the trolleys out on its first day today! I'll take some better photos soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ragon Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Richard - is the bottom supporting cart your design? How is it for balance? Looks great, and I like the (what appears to be a ...) handle bar near the front wheels... MF Mike, The balance is great. It's designed to tip backwards, and you pick up the handle and roll it into the van. It's actually hard to tip over. The base frame is steel square tubing, and it's very ridged, so there's no play. The heavy items stay on the bottom like the power units, and the mixer, and the lighter items are on the top like the venue and monitors. Plus, when you place a battery on the bottom, it becomes even harder to tip over. Very happy rolling it around on all kind of surfaces. Only issue, might be in the 200-300lb range, and hard to get up even one step. solved with a few hands on set though. The bar on the front is Chinhda manufactured. It acts as a foot rest set up, and a hand hold on loading. -Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefilosa Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Richard - I really like it, and I thought there was something Chinda-esque about that bar ! Did you personally design the rolling base and implement that bar? I have one of those shock-proofed SKB Cases and it can be a beast... It's on simple casters and not yet prepped for any rugged exterior use -- I'm going to bet that most of that 200-300lb weight you are wrangling is "case".... Not second-guessing here, but wondering if you explored potentially lighter options in that area... I'd say that particular case is the epitome in available, "racked" protection, and I'll bet that's what you were looking towards ... there has been some debate here on the full necessity of that maximum shock protection it affords. MF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollandaudio Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Wonderful Cart. I have the same case as Bogen. I like it but I'm thinking something smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ragon Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Richard - I really like it, and I thought there was something Chinda-esque about that bar ! Did you personally design the rolling base and implement that bar? I have one of those shock-proofed SKB Cases and it can be a beast... It's on simple casters and not yet prepped for any rugged exterior use -- I'm going to bet that most of that 200-300lb weight you are wrangling is "case".... Not second-guessing here, but wondering if you explored potentially lighter options in that area... I'd say that particular case is the epitome in available, "racked" protection, and I'll bet that's what you were looking towards ... there has been some debate here on the full necessity of that maximum shock protection it affords. MF Mike, I designed the whole thing. Drew it up, welded it, powder-coated, and bolted it together. I've been thinking up a webpage showing the build, but I just never got around to it. What people don't realize is that the case is simply plastic. Its large, but doesn't weigh anything. The weigh of the cart is always the equipment. Combine this with all the wires, power units, cords, lights, monitors, etc.. The actual case, and frame only weigh a fraction of the gear weights. Same thing with the Magliner that I used before.. I can pick up the Magliner with 2 hands, but load it down with the gear, and boom.. 300 lbs. -Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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