Tilt Down Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 To the mixer who rented a 744t last week from Trew Audio and recorded political ads in Kansas: you really should erase the internal hard drive before you return the gear. In some else's hands your client could have been really screwed. Quote
rcoronado Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 as a rental house, our policy is to erase the drives as they get returned from the field. but yeah, take responsibility for erasing sensitive materials in advance peeps. Quote
johnpaul215 Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 Oh damn! (Wasn't me, but yikes) Quote
OmahaAudio Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 To the mixer who rented a 744t last week from Trew Audio and recorded political ads in Kansas: you really should erase the internal hard drive before you return the gear. In some else's hands your client could have been really screwed. Well... DIsh! What did they say? Quote
Richard Ragon Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 Gawd, I was thinking of that when I returned the 788T to Trewaudio.. But then I went.. ah.. low budget gig.. so what.. -Richard Quote
Tom Visser Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 I'm not so sure, not my gear, I'm not going to erase anything, unless specifically told. I'm not going to be that guy that takes the fall if for some reason their media backups fail and go looking for the files on the production gear. Quote
thebrengun Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 I'm not so sure, not my gear, I'm not going to erase anything, unless specifically told. I'm not going to be that guy that takes the fall if for some reason their media backups fail and go looking for the files on the production gear. Yeah, use your own media (better yet, client's!), or back up to a personal drive and then format. EDIT: (better yet, client's!) I actually hate using client media because I'm always skeptical of its condition but it might be best practice for politicians to buy the media... Quote
Tom Visser Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 I'll revise my opinion slightly, if rental gear that I rent on my own behalf, would treat that my own responsibility, but if rental provided to me from production, well that's in their hands. Quote
studiomprd Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 " I'm not going to be that guy that takes the fall if for some reason their media backups fail and go looking for the files on the production gear. " we have thoroughly thrashed the topic of our keeping of backups, but in this case the PSM has turned the client's material over to a third party...in the current case political ads, so the material may be sensitive. if it were to get out from some fourth party perhaps (the next customer to rent the machine), guess who could be help responsible.... Quote
Tilt Down Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Posted August 22, 2013 Well... DIsh! What did they say? Jokes about cameramen, mainly, and what they pay sound guys. Quote
Constantin Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 I bought a used 788T a while ago from one of the usual suspects and on its internal drive was an entire day's worth of audio files from a huge upcoming film, from one of top directors/actors and PSMs. Really interesting to hear that work and what goes on on such set. It even contained some data in the sound report menu. I really enjoyed that, but of course it shouldn't have been there. The shop at the very latest should've erased the HDD. Quote
atheisticmystic Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 I always spend an extra day with my rental gear, recording all manner of "performance art" as I call it; hoping that someone will find it on the drive and "discover" me. Anyone overhear my one-man "King Ubu", left on the internal drive of a 702T at Location Sound in late October of 2012??? wink Quote
bleueblancrouge Posted September 4, 2013 Report Posted September 4, 2013 sure the PSM has responsibility, but if this politician is talking sh*t with camera and sound rolling, then he/she has to be prepared to answer for it. Quote
johngooch Posted September 4, 2013 Report Posted September 4, 2013 sure the PSM has responsibility, but if this politician is talking sh*t with camera and sound rolling, then he/she has to be prepared to answer for it. No. In the political commercial world we are neutral. And we are the guardians of the data. It does not have to a scandalous statement or comment that is the issue, the issue is the confidentiality of a yet to be released political message getting into the wrong hands. This is a trust that is critical. Quote
studiomprd Posted September 4, 2013 Report Posted September 4, 2013 " This is a trust that is critical. " exactly, and it is more and more frequently supplemented with NDA's... Quote
Constantin Posted September 8, 2013 Report Posted September 8, 2013 No. In the political commercial world we are neutral. And we are the guardians of the data. It does not have to a scandalous statement or comment that is the issue, the issue is the confidentiality of a yet to be released political message getting into the wrong hands. This is a trust that is critical. i very strongly agree with this. I rarely sign NDAs, but it is clear to me anyway that I would never violate the trust someone puts on me when I record their voice. Same goes for radio mics. I always let an actor know that they will never be heard unless they are actually on the set ready to shoot. This is the same kind of trust and I think if I violate that, I'll be out of a job soon Quote
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