Sebastian Vronski Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 I have a Tvc shoot this Sunday where the frame rate will be 33.33FPS. What is this? I usually record at 25 or 24 and I'm a bit stumped as to what to set my 744T to? I have never come across this framerate before and the 744 obviously has no setting for it. .. Would 25 on the 744 do and they will fix it post? Or better to change the FPS to something else? Thank you Quote
Angelo Waldron Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Luke 23:34 King James Version (KJV) 34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. Quote
André Boisvert Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 With that frame rate, I'd record on vinyl. Quote
Eric Toline Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 At that frame rate it should be RPM not FPS. Eric Quote
jrd456 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Ask them again or better yet,ask the editor-----33.33 RPM was used for vinyl records---someone is confused ? J.D. Quote
studiomprd Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Vronski: " a Tvc shoot this Sunday where the frame rate will be 33.33FPS " someone needs a giant box of clue... Quote
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OmahaAudio Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 I have a Tvc shoot this Sunday where the frame rate will be 33.33FPS. What is this? At first glance it appears to be a totally insane producer (or DP). You might want to double check on that. Quote
Sebastian Vronski Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Posted January 14, 2014 obviously the producer that mailed me this frame rate is on something strong. cheers anyway .. had a laugh with the replies Quote
OmahaAudio Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 obviously the producer that mailed me this frame rate is on something strong. cheers anyway .. had a laugh with the replies This isn't a doc on the new legal cannabis industry in Colorado, is it? Quote
Tom Conen Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 33.33 fps is used for slow motion effects. Usually recorded at 33.33 fps and played back at 25 fps. (both integer dividers* of 100) There is no matching frame rate on our side. Sound is recorded to have the option to use the material in real time. (Or the other way round.) Better be careful to think they are fools. *Is "integer dividers" the right expression? Quote
OmahaAudio Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 33.33 fps is used for slow motion effects. Usually recorded at 33.33 fps and played back at 25 fps. (both integer dividers* of 100) 33.33 is NOT an integer divider of 100. 1? 2? 4? 5? 10? 20? 25? 50? Sure. 33 1/3rd? Nope. Quote
Marc Wielage Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 At first glance it appears to be a totally insane producer (or DP). You might want to double check on that. That's my opinion as well. 29.97 ND I can believe, 23.98 I can believe. Not much else. 33.33 fps is used for slow motion effects. Usually recorded at 33.33 fps and played back at 25 fps. (both integer dividers* of 100) I have never in my life been on a shoot or had footage in post that was shot in 33fps. 36fps, yes. Usually, it's multiples of 6: 24fps, 30fps, 36fps, 48fps, 60fps, 72fps, etc. And I haven't ever seen sync sound shot on any of these; wild tracks and background tracks, yes. I have been on projects that had speed ramps that varied from 24fps to another, much higher speed (which probably moved through 33fps at some point), but only as a momentary effect, not a constant speed. Quote
Sebastian Vronski Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Posted January 15, 2014 33.33 fps is used for slow motion effects. Usually recorded at 33.33 fps and played back at 25 fps. (both integer dividers* of 100) There is no matching frame rate on our side. Sound is recorded to have the option to use the material in real time. (Or the other way round.) Better be careful to think they are fools. *Is "integer dividers" the right expression? Ok, I've just had an official reply from their production and it turns out they really ARE shooting at 33.33fps slo mo. Also, someone else also told me that some music videos are shot this way. ( This is not a music video btw, it's people reading poetry ) Anyway, I will stay at 25 and they will sort everything post so I'm happy now. Thanks Quote
John Blankenship Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 The real question, of course, is what frame rate they're editing the project at. Based on the last post I'd guess 25fps, if not, you need to talk to post. Quote
Tom Conen Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 33.33 is NOT an integer divider of 100. 1? 2? 4? 5? 10? 20? 25? 50? Sure. 33 1/3rd? Nope. Lost in Translation! So what do you call 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, etc.? Thanks for your correction. Quote
Tom Conen Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 I have never in my life been on a shoot or had footage in post that was shot in 33fps. I think it's only used in PAL-World. At 33.33fps the camera records 100 frames in 3 seconds. When played back at 25fps it will take 4 seconds to reach 100 frames. I honestly don't know about the benefits in editing, but the numbers look nice. :-) Quote
Christopher Mills Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 which camera can be set at this rate? Quote
Philip Perkins Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 That's my opinion as well. 29.97 ND I can believe, 23.98 I can believe. Not much else. I have never in my life been on a shoot or had footage in post that was shot in 33fps. 36fps, yes. Usually, it's multiples of 6: 24fps, 30fps, 36fps, 48fps, 60fps, 72fps, etc. And I haven't ever seen sync sound shot on any of these; wild tracks and background tracks, yes. I have been on projects that had speed ramps that varied from 24fps to another, much higher speed (which probably moved through 33fps at some point), but only as a momentary effect, not a constant speed. I have done sync sound at some of these frame rates, for effect. The post was kind of a pig-fuck, but it ended up working. philp Quote
studiomprd Posted January 16, 2014 Report Posted January 16, 2014 TomC: " So what do you call 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, etc.? " fractions Quote
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted January 16, 2014 Report Posted January 16, 2014 The post was kind of a pig-fuck, but it ended up working. philp Is this an American technical sound term Phillip? Quote
Tom Conen Posted January 16, 2014 Report Posted January 16, 2014 TomC: " So what do you call 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, etc.? " fractions I did some research and the exact term I was looking for is "unit fractions". Your reply pointed me in the right direction. Thanks! Quote
Tom Conen Posted January 16, 2014 Report Posted January 16, 2014 which camera can be set at this rate? I only worked on 33.33fps projects being shot on Alexas and Alexa Plus'. But to my knowledge almost every professional camera is able to record at that frame rate. Quote
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