VASI Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Roland R-88 - Simultaneous recording of 8 channels + stereo mix (up to 96kHz) - Up to 24bit/192kHz uncompressed linear PCM recording (up to 4 channels) - 3 hours of recording using 32GB SDHC card (24bit/96kHz, 10ch) - 8 XLR inputs, 8 XLR outputs, AES/EBU input/output - Built-in 8 channel mixer with 3-band equalizer and MS microphone decoder - Built-in 10in/8out USB audio interface - Touch Panel Display for intuitive navigation - SMPTE timecode In/Out for video sync - Four different types of power - Alkaline battery (AA), Rechargeable Ni-MH battery (AA), AC Adaptor, External battery (4-pin XLR 9 to 16 V) More Information: http://www.roland.com/products/en/R-88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 interesting, nothing about metadata entry, but i think this will be covered to some extent. will wait for more info from roland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Could be a good backup mixer... I detest the r4 preamps. Looks a lot like the hs p82, and the hdp2 btw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Wow. I loved my R-44, and know a mixer who has worked a lot on an R-4 Pro (could be called the predecessor of this machine). With an external mixer in front with good preamps I am sure this will be a great machine. I still think the R44's menu structure and display is the best I have seen (including SD 7 series and Nomad). The big questions are meta data, and: what will the price be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 GOOD - Simultaneous recording of 8 channels + stereo mix (up to 96kHz) GOOD FOR FX PEOPLE - Up to 24bit/192kHz uncompressed linear PCM recording (up to 4 channels) BLAH so probably 6+ hours at 48KHz, should cover a typical day, but maybe have to swap cards during heavy days - 3 hours of recording using 32GB SDHC card (24bit/96kHz, 10ch) GOOD only improvement woudl be AES42 inputs and maybe 8 AES via DB-25 with SRC - 8 XLR inputs, 8 XLR outputs, AES/EBU input/output GOOD - Built-in 8 channel mixer with 3-band equalizer and MS microphone decoder GREAT even one ups it's competition - Built-in 10in/8out USB audio interface GOOD, I personal detest touch screens, but that seems to be the popular demand - Touch Panel Display for intuitive navigation GREAT for a company like Roland to understand the necessity of this feature - SMPTE timecode In/Out for video sync GREAT also uncharacteristic of Roland to cover the basics - Four different types of power - Alkaline battery (AA), Rechargeable Ni-MH battery (AA), AC Adaptor, External battery (4-pin XLR 9 to 16 V) But... how does it sound?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 I am so psyched... if this one sells for 2000 Euros (as did the R-4 Pro) or less it will be a serious alternative to Zax, SD and esp. Tascam. USB audio interface! Awesome!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Joachim Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Wow. I loved my R-44, and know a mixer who has worked a lot on an R-4 Pro (could be called the predecessor of this machine). With an external mixer in front with good preamps I am sure this will be a great machine. I still think the R44's menu structure and display is the best I have seen (including SD 7 series and Nomad). The big questions are meta data, and: what will the price be? US List price is $2,500.00 Looking at a January-February 2013 delivery SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 US List price is $2,500.00 Holy s**t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 As we've hashed over many times on this forum, a recorder's ability to input TC for time stamping generally does not mean that it is "syncing" itself to anything (external), HDp2 and Traveler aside. In the past the Roland internal clocks were not on the level of SD etc, so an external clock ref (AES etc) would be a good idea. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Am I crazy, or does this thing look an awful lot like the Tascam HS-P82? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted September 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 My only cons for R-88 is the size. Too big size for new mixer/recorder especially when the Nomad and 788T is playing around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I like that you can record and output iso's to a DAW at the same time. I like that the menu is accessible for the front, better for bag work. Though, I do see knobs on top. Video and info on website doesnt tell what it's for. I guess there's no metadata, because that's definitly something you would brag about in the specs. Tomorrow I'm at the IBC and hope it's on show at the stand there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chakman Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I like that you can record and output iso's to a DAW at the same time. I like that the menu is accessible for the front, better for bag work. Though, I do see knobs on top. Video and info on website doesnt tell what it's for. I guess there's no metadata, because that's definitly something you would brag about in the specs. Tomorrow I'm at the IBC and hope it's on show at the stand there. Not sure, but I think those knobs on top are actually just screws holding the battery door closed. Aside from that though, and not to rain on your parade, I don't think I would want to take it out in the bag too often, as far as I can see it's one of the largest and heaviest 5+ channel recorders out there. Not that this does not look like a pretty great machine, it's certainly piqued my interest, but I think it would be a lot more comfortable on a cart. If you do get to see it at IBC tomorrow, do tell us what your impressions are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Not sure, but I think those knobs on top are actually just screws holding the battery door closed. Aside from that though, and not to rain on your parade, I don't think I would want to take it out in the bag too often, as far as I can see it's one of the largest and heaviest 5+ channel recorders out there. Not that this does not look like a pretty great machine, it's certainly piqued my interest, but I think it would be a lot more comfortable on a cart. If you do get to see it at IBC tomorrow, do tell us what your impressions are I hear what you say. Though. Weight is about as much as a 788t with cl8 and often people use that in a bag... Ill post my findings tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chakman Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Yeah, fair point, but still a fair bit larger than a 788T + CL8, if your swinging a boom having something as large as an R-88 in the way might be a hassle. I am curious about the output routing of the 8 XLR outs, can they all be routed as separate buses or are they set to direct outs/stereo pairs or just mirrors of mix LR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 With the SD 664 and the R-88, it looks like the end for the Tascam Hs-P82 considering price and flexibility. J.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olix Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 New video for R-88 : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chakman Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Wow, cool! Looks like it will show a rough frequency response for each input, could be a handy little trick from time to time. Thanks for the vid olix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Just "touched" it here @ IBC. It's enormous. No metadata except file naming. You do can make some presets for that though. Touchscreen navigation works okay, but it looks like its quite worthless in bright sun. It's a guess of course since now it's situated in a dark expo hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 If it's the same kind of OLED display as the R44's it will be alright in sunlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 If it's the same kind of OLED display as the R44's it will be alright in sunlight. Sorry I disagree. To me the R44 screen was/is quite useless in full daylight sun. But on the other hand which digital recorder is good at that point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 With the SD 664 and the R-88, it looks like the end for the Tascam Hs-P82 considering price and flexibility. Unless they drop their prices to match or beat the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 I think Tascam's plus is meta data and better preamps. What was the US price? 3000? At 500 difference I would go for the Tascam - but in Europe the Tascam is still 5000 Euros, which is twice as much as in the states, and I'm quite sure Roland won't charge much more for the R-88 in the EU than they do in the US, so then it's an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Dont forget tascams mixers panel. Huge plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Will this recorder work as an audio interface while recording? If so, would that be a bit of first? Potentially making a convenient back up recording solution going directly from the recorder via usb cable into a macbook (running boom recorder) - no other boxes involved. dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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