Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Does anyone use a 633 in conjunction with a Mini Solice mixer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ray Harris Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 A good friend of mine does, he's been mixing a feature with the combo for the last month. I'll be seeing him tonight, want me to ask him anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osa Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I have as well as 664. Both in bag cart setups. I made custom snakes for them. Been working well. feels great to actually mix with real faders! -Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Didn't Glen Trew do a review with it and the 633??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Thanks for the replies guys. Nick I would be interested in finding out where your friend was finding the input faders were working when lining up with the Solice ref gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I do Malcom, my 1k / -20dbfs ref gen is going to the 633 inputs all of which are being recorded and calibrated pre fade ISO, so fader position on 633 is irrelevant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ray Harris Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'll ask him, but I imagine everything is prefade like Wynne said. Two mixers have reported channels bleeding into the mix track, and one has said the tone generator stops working in sub 30 degree weather. Have you guys had similar experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I have also heard this bleed in the cue mix but the input level had to be decently hot for it to show up, hadn't experienced an actual issue with it during a take. Here in the south everything stops working at sub 30 degree temperatures. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Here in the south everything stops working at sub 30 degree temperatures. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lol In SoCal that temp would be insane. We'd all die in our shorts and flip flops. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean McCormick Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I had a chat with Ron about the bleed right when they started shipping. He said it was a price point/spec issue. In practice I have not been adversely affected by it as I'm never in a scenario that has all faders completely down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ray Harris Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 In Chicago we keep working in 30 below zero weather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ray Harris Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I had a chat with Ron about the bleed right when they started shipping. He said it was a price point/spec issue. In practice I have not been adversely affected by it as I'm never in a scenario that has all faders completely down. On tv shows its a concern where we have actors all wired all the time and would not want private conversations being recorded in scenes where they're off set. We typically just disable the track, but if the bleed is going to the mix then its a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean McCormick Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 It's microscopic and indiscernible, Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 It's microscopic and undiscernable, Nick.. +1 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 If I'm not mistaken, the 552 and also the 664 bleeds too. I've only heard it in total silence and it's never been a problem. So it's not just a solice "problem" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I had bleeding problems with the pro mix 6 and sd 552; When you have wireless systems like Micron which don't shut them selfs down/mute when out of range, the RF noise bleeds into the mix quite obvious when potentiometer is all the way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I do Malcom, my 1k / -20dbfs ref gen is going to the 633 inputs all of which are being recorded and calibrated pre fade ISO, so fader position on 633 is irrelevant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Michael,and Nick Thanks for taking the time to reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 In Montreal, we only work when it's minus 30c... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Curious if the mini Solice might work with a Zaxcom Maxx.... No analog mix-in on that recorder.. outboard A/D maybe? Anyone try this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I've used the Mini Solice with the 633. As a mixer, it's minimal and in several ways not ideal it terms of gain, layout, and metering, but the small footprint is helpful and the power consumption is very low. Also, to use the inputs and outputs, special cables are required, though some of them are somewhat standard. The pinouts of the 25-pin connectors are standard, but the 25-pin output is nonstandard in that it is a male (most of this type are female, whether input of output), so a special cable is required. Regarding metering, when I was using the Mini Solice it's color-coding was different that other devices, in that the meter LEDs changed to yellow well before the recorder, which tended to result in recordings with lower level than than should have been (hopefully this color scale has changed by now, but I'm not aware that it has). With some effort, the mixer can be made to work for a mix and 8 iso tracks, and for anything of that size and price it stands alone. gt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osa Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Fyi a 25pin turnaround can be found fairly easy to help with prefabbed snakes. it had never occured to me till i tried to plug in. Thankfully local computer parts place had one in stock or i would have been SOL on a gig i bought the snakes for. Metering colors iirc seem to be different across multiple mixers/recorders. A few small pieces of ND are highly recommended as the lowest setting brightness level is still blinding. -Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulluysavage Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 How can the Solice Mini be made to work for a mix and 8 iso tracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 It has direct outs on 25-pin DB and mix outs on TA3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Fyi a 25pin turnaround can be found fairly easy to help with prefabbed snakes. it had never occured to me till i tried to plug in. Thankfully local computer parts place had one in stock or i would have been SOL on a gig i bought the snakes for. Metering colors iirc seem to be different across multiple mixers/recorders. A few small pieces of ND are highly recommended as the lowest setting brightness level is still blinding. -Ken True, a 25-pin female/female turnaround will work, but it is a little disconcerting not knowing the grounding and shielding configuration of the adapter (though for line level it shouldn't be a big concern). Fryes has them. I believe that metering colors on the commonly used mixers and recorders are green until the 0VU reference (20dB below max), then yellow until -10, then red. Since no one stares (or should stare) at the mixer's meter scale numbers while recording, and generally watches the metering in the periphery, the affects of the meter's early color change to yellow can be significant. I haven't checked recently, but I understood that the too-bright LED metering was to have been fixed by now. It was originally so bright in the "dim" setting, that a piece of black gaffers tape brought it down to a good level on a dark (normal) sound stage. gt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osa Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yikes! Bought mine fairly recently so maybe mine is updated and still too bright for dark sets? I've got the nd trick down now to where i double up with 2 strips of nd and leave the last couple red lights exposed on the meters and it acts as a double safety if i run too hot. -ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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