Prahlad Strickland Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 At 2:30 there is a classic quote... Boom as backup... Lav as primary, no wonder so many indie / b grade productions end up sounding like indie / b grade crap. Because from the ground up, they are given advice that renders them with c grade audio. Anyways, made me mad hearing the advice that so many obviously take far to seriously into their careers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie Tongue Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Bonus points for the G1 (!) series wireless, where did he even buy that from? $50 off eBay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astro Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Excellent booming at around 12 minutes. 😂 What is he doing with the plastic bag? Is that where he carries the sandwiches? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonG Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Wow. No wonder I'm met with such hostility on some jobs. If this is the kind of advice they're getting, then amateur "filler" content is what they'll continue to produce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enginufuk Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 58 minutes ago, astro said: Excellent booming at around 12 minutes. 😂 What is he doing with the plastic bag? Is that where he carries the sandwiches? Maaan tha me laugh!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProSound Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 They recorder at 24/96 thank god..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Feeley Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 1 hour ago, astro said: What is he doing with the plastic bag? Is that where he carries the sandwiches? I'm probably posting this in the wrong place. It should be in the Show me your bag discussion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prahlad Strickland Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 hahhahahaha, to good 1 hour ago, Jim Feeley said: I'm probably posting this in the wrong place. It should be in the Show me your bag discussion. I'd love to do a reverse engineered video and send it to this guy. We chose to cover every shot with the boom as the main audio coverage. Now... for the video, we ended up using an iphone for main camera and we ran a red weapon as backup, but.... in the end, it didn't matter, the iphone was just fine! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T_will Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Realizing it could have been a continuity issue, at the last minute Boom Op picked bag off table to save the take. HERO! Or, the worlds least ergonomic audio bag ever seen in the western world? Or, yourodetubecanon swag bag? (do not leave unattended!) Or, the shit I do for my 2nd cousin. Or, A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marc Wielage Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Great. I did a spit-take on my monitor and now have to hose it down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
codyman Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Good thing he's rocking a Zeppelin indoors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Gilchrist Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 5 hours ago, codyman said: Good thing he's rocking a Zeppelin indoors. I don't know. Looks pretty windy in there. #sadfaceemoticon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProSound Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Jim Gilchrist said: I don't know. Looks pretty windy in there. #sadfaceemoticon I once had someone tell me when I asked them to turn the AC off to just use outdoor wind protection indoors to "stop the AC windy noise" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wandering Ear Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Don't worry if one transmitter gives out, you can always use their dialog from the other actors mic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Flowers Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 They can work wonders in post, you know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiore Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 3 hours ago, ProSound said: I once had someone tell me when I asked them to turn the AC off to just use outdoor wind protection indoors to "stop the AC windy noise" Were you able to successfully argue your point? or did it turn into a " you get what you get" sort of situation with the client calling three days later asking why it sounds "like that"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
codyman Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 3 hours ago, ProSound said: I once had someone tell me when I asked them to turn the AC off to just use outdoor wind protection indoors to "stop the AC windy noise" Oh boy.... I'm rather surprised that these YouTube / "internet video" folks haven't just resorted to pretending they are on a spaghetti western by rolling MOS and dubbing later. Then again, you at least need a good story and acting to pull that off and let's face it, that is rarely the case with these kind of "content creators". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProSound Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 6 hours ago, fiore said: Were you able to successfully argue your point? or did it turn into a " you get what you get" sort of situation with the client calling three days later asking why it sounds "like that"? I lost they didn't seem to think it was important so I am sure they just used the talent wireless instead the check cleared and I never heard a word from them about it. I did a movie once that every location was terrible for sound and I wasn't happy with anything I was delivering but the executives and post thought we were doing a good job and gave me a good reference so my motto is if they are happy I am happy these days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronFilm Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Strange strange, and a little sad, as John Hess usually produces such great videos on Filmmaker IQ. Once again, as usual, sound is being treated as the outcast poor bastard stepchild of the family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninjafreddan Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 On 2016-04-08 at 8:59 PM, astro said: What is he doing with the plastic bag? Is that where he carries the sandwiches? Man, you had me giggling for an hour. Wifey did not understand the humor. :-) Coming to think of it, doesn't it look like he's taking a munch while the rest of the crew is filming during rehearsals? Love the part where John says: "I had some glitching at the end of the day, because the transmitters started to loose battery power..." So, either they were not able to conjure up replacement batteries, or nobody was listening to the sound being recorded. Epic fail. :-) Cheers Fred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiore Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 On April 9, 2016 at 7:45 PM, ProSound said: I lost they didn't seem to think it was important so I am sure they just used the talent wireless instead the check cleared and I never heard a word from them about it. I did a movie once that every location was terrible for sound and I wasn't happy with anything I was delivering but the executives and post thought we were doing a good job and gave me a good reference so my motto is if they are happy I am happy these days "If they are happy I am happy." Words to live by I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Gilchrist Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 On April 9, 2016 at 0:53 PM, Wandering Ear said: Don't worry if one transmitter gives out, you can always use their dialog from the other actors mic. I've been in a situation where using the other lav worked best. No gear failure involved, just (really loud) yelling at close range in a pretty wide frame. Never say something will never work. Best regards, Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wandering Ear Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 On 4/14/2016 at 11:45 AM, Jim Gilchrist said: I've been in a situation where using the other lav worked best. No gear failure involved, just (really loud) yelling at close range in a pretty wide frame. Never say something will never work. Best regards, Jim That wasn't quite what I was getting at, but you're right, there are situations where another actors lav may work just fine. I was poking fun at his solution to the problem he was having with one wireless is to just forget it, rather than fix the issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan McL Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Left a comment for Mr. Hess: Quote Great demonstration of the in's and out's of blocking toward telling a story! That said, you've unwittingly stepped onto a turd luring just under the surface of the sound department sandbox with some of your thinking about the craft. I urge people who watch to take what Mr. Hess has to say on the subject of sound with a grain or two of salt. http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/topic/27484-blocking-video-with-added-horrible-advice/&do=findComment&comment=314473 Perhaps he will come here and we can make our case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronFilm Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 On 4/16/2016 at 0:02 AM, Jan McL said: Left a comment for Mr. Hess: Perhaps he will come here and we can make our case. He is aware of this thread... I did link him to it after all, back when it was first posted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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