jayhartigan Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 My son just lost two new IDX NP1s to TSA in College Station TX that were in his Pelican case with the 788. They stopped him at the gate as he was boarding to tell him they found the batteries in the case and wouldn't be getting them back. I know I used to tape the contacts in '09 but that stopped. We've traveled by air hundreds of times all over the country since then without trouble. Here's my question. Does anyone know of a protective sleeve that the NP1 will slip into? I searched this forum but can't find a reference. Thanks Jay Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngooch Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 He was checking them. Or carry on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayhartigan Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Checked Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bluemke Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Even if you find cases for your NP-1's, we're required by law to carry on any lithium ion batteries in the main cabin. I usually keep them taped up in my 1510 case with my gear. Bummer that your son couldn't at least get them and carry them on with him though. I would love to find cases or even a cover for the contacts if anyone makes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Tape the contacts and carry them on. If you check them TSA can remove them. No sleeve or case will make them allowable in the belly of the plane. This is not a new rule. Unfortunately your son learned an expensive lesson. But much expensive than a fire in the cargo hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Wasserman Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I keep mine in the original cardboard sleeves, and put those in heavy duty polyethylene zip bags. I downloaded an official looking Lithium Battery warning label from the TSA site, printed them, and stuck them onto the bags. I've never had a problem carrying on. http://phmsa.dot.gov/safetravel/batteries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 How about a case that can hold all of your NP-1's as well as act as a "device". Technically, if they are installed I'm a device, you should be OK to fly. For example, a bank of 4 NP-1 shoes that each have a battery and a simple circuit that powers an led. Technically, they are installed in a device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngooch Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 carry on. Tape over connectors with blue painters tape that matches the idx battery so that it does not stick out. Pull everything out and put in the bins. No batteries and electronics ever stacked. takes about 5-6 bins. Other travelers hate it- TSA prefers it. I usually carry on 788t-633(naked)-NPs and a slate or two. No pouches or stray wires. The slate seems to add an element of official film crew cache. And i have a print out of the safety declaration from the IDX site. Smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Slater Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 " I usually carry on 788t-633(naked)-NPs and a slate or two." I understand that if you are carrying on board electronics like laptops that you need to be able to power it up should security require it. I always make sure I have a charged V-lock in my carry on kit, ready to prove its use. All of my other V-locks are taped and bagged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 idx make a case for np1s. It's blue, holds two. made by cinebags. China I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I have a few of those cases. I thought they only held 1. I keep all mine In the petrol wireless accessory case. Can hold like 9 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Following TSA guidelines, I carry all mine in carry-on. And yet, camera dept. has packed a pelican full of Anton Bauers, some of which, I'm told are Li-Ion. How have they not been yanked ever last year ? best Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 The TV show I've been on and off with all year was checking all their v-locks for 3 cameras, when I asked about it, they said they've gotten away with it and didn't care. About a month later they lost ALL of their batteries trying to return from Germany. Now they ship them between locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Robot Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Where can I buy all this friggin' sound and camera gear that disappears after the TSA takes it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 So the question remains, doesnt TSA check all the checked in baggage. Like you, WE, my DP said the same, that he was pretty sure they were not supposed to be checking Li-ion batteries, but they were (and I'm talking about a pelican thT was regularly over 100 pounds. Several times one of us had to go back through security, take out a battery or two to meet weight, and then go back through security. I still don't get how more aren't confiscated like yours througb Germany. And yeah, wheres the auction best Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hall Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Would a spare NP-1 cup count as a "device"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 To them, probably. Would a spare NP-1 cup count as a "device"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 What is the device rule? I've read the TSA rules about carrying on batteries, and the capacity limits per battery / passenger. But I've never seen a requirement where they must be installed in a device to be carried on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 I reciently flew through china and the dp had one small lithium battery buried in one case. When checking in china's version of tsa scaned all the cases and a red light on the scanner lit up for one case. The agent said that there is a lithium battery in the case and it must be removed. Even all the carry on battereis went through a lot of scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 http://phmsa.dot.gov/safetravel/batteries Spares are not allowed in checked baggage but batteries with up to 8 grams of lithium (100wh) are allowed if installed in a device. I assume the rationale is that if it is installed, it is protected from short circuit. What is the device rule? I've read the TSA rules about carrying on batteries, and the capacity limits per battery / passenger. But I've never seen a requirement where they must be installed in a device to be carried on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thanks Jason. That is more clear than the TSA doc I originally read. From reading the TSA doc I remember not being allowed to check ANY li-ion batteries, but this makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 For us it certainly does. I remember one time when, after checking her notebook, and then calling her sup in, TSA called an airline agent to come to the screening area to approve my (3) Np-1; which they did. Still doesnt explain how a pelican full of unconnected camera batteries gets through, Wait, does even TSA disempower sound ? lol best Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Wait, does even TSA disempower sound ? Ha! Although I do know sound mixers that pack their whole kit and check it. They've also told me stories of their recorders getting damaged from the way TSA repacked their pelican, etc. Personally I like to carry the bare minimum I need to shoot with on the plane, then check the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 I usually carry on enough kit to land and shoot (minus the boom) including 3x v-locks. I'd look awful silly if my batteries caused my plane to catch fire and crash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Like John Gooch said, I carry the batteries and a printout. I'm currently using B4B batteries, so I have their paper that states how many grams of lithium in a specific battery. Carry them all in my mixer bag and that's a carry on. I'll put iPowers under because my understanding is that you can do ones that small, and they are taped up in the plastic holder. Camera shouldn't be putting lithium batteries under, but it seems like people do and often get away with it. That said, I couldn't even imagine landing and realizing every camera battery was seized. They're definitely stories on this site for people that got to their hotel room, open the pelican case and realized the batteries were pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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