Trey LaCroix Report post #1 Posted September 4, 2018 SX-M2D2 Product Announcement The SX-M2D2 is a lightweight 2 channels high resolution dual-domain microphones preamplifier with integrated USB audio Class 2. Compact, low power, battery powered, the SX-M2D2 embeds similar high performance dual A/D converters than the SX-R4+. This product is the ideal companion for various mobile environments. Its ergonomic has been carefully designed for convenience and easy of operation. Inputs / Outputs 2x mic/line inputs on TA3, electronically balanced, with phase reversal, 48V phantom, LF cut and level control on the front panel 1x AES3/AES42 on TA3, transformer balanced input with phase reversal, 48V phantom, LF cut and level control on the front panel 1x line output on TA3, 2 channels analog unbalanced 1x AES3 output on TA3, 2 channels transformer balanced with ASRC (48/96/192k) 1x USB audio 2 channels input/output on micro USB type B connector independent line/headphones stereo output on mini-jack Performance 135 dB (A-weighted) overall dynamic range THD < 0.001% 90 kHz overall frequency response @192kHz 24-bit 48/96/192kHz Powering external DC 9-18V on Hirose 4-pin external DC 5V on micro USB removable lithium-ion battery, charged with external DC input intelligent energy management User interface 128×64 monochrome OLED display two rotary encoder for gain control intuitive menu navigation Mechanical Machined aluminum housing overall dimension: 74 x 28 x 130 mm (2.9’’ x 1.1’’ x 5.1’’) weight 300g (0.44lbs) with battery mounting holes on both sides optional mounting bracket for still camera Note: preliminary specifications, subject to change without notice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mobilemike Report post #2 Posted September 4, 2018 Woohoo this looks awesome! The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is not having any balanced analog outputs. Any chance of making that analog output a TA5 so that we can get balanced signals? AES is nice to have but for me I will use analog much more often. Love the mini-jack output as well - that will be perfect to get two extra channels on my MixPre-6. Specs say headphone/line out. Will you be able to switch it between the two modes? I'd rather not have whatever headphone amplifier is there in the signal path when using this as a line output. Looking forward to it! -Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Immoral Mr Teas Report post #3 Posted September 5, 2018 As someone seriously hoping this appears (and very happy that Sonosax offers preliminaries for feedback) here is my immediate feedback. As a field recordist often out in the 'middle of nowhere' and WEEKS or more away from simple replacement parts - I am a huge fan of simplicity and conformity for common/essential tasks. This and several other reasons would make me want standard XLRs for the two inputs. Extra cables are bad enough - losing the extra cable is (all too often) a disastrous nightmare. Would be more than happy to make up space by having the AES3/42 on XLR1 if so : no great reason for an extra connection for a 2 channel unit? Expect others might have good reason to disagree but have to say I don't know what it may be. Not so bothered on not having balanced analogue outputs but might expand its user base (could increase other uses - I am well aware that this is designed as an input accessory for the SXR4), nor output connector. Looks good. And good to think that a series of small '+2' modules might expand the R4+ Still think there is perhaps a strong potential market for a (same footprint/body as the AD8) AD4+4, being 8 AD converters but with just four of them having preamps in front of them. A compromise between cost and those who might need the converters just at line level (which I've seen at least once here). Jez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronFilm Report post #4 Posted September 5, 2018 Any hints at price? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel Report post #5 Posted September 5, 2018 6 hours ago, The Immoral Mr Teas said: As someone seriously hoping this appears (and very happy that Sonosax offers preliminaries for feedback) here is my immediate feedback. As a field recordist often out in the 'middle of nowhere' and WEEKS or more away from simple replacement parts - I am a huge fan of simplicity and conformity for common/essential tasks. This and several other reasons would make me want standard XLRs for the two inputs. Extra cables are bad enough - losing the extra cable is (all too often) a disastrous nightmare. Would be more than happy to make up space by having the AES3/42 on XLR1 if so : no great reason for an extra connection for a 2 channel unit? Expect others might have good reason to disagree but have to say I don't know what it may be. Not so bothered on not having balanced analogue outputs but might expand its user base (could increase other uses - I am well aware that this is designed as an input accessory for the SXR4), nor output connector. Looks good. And good to think that a series of small '+2' modules might expand the R4+ Still think there is perhaps a strong potential market for a (same footprint/body as the AD8) AD4+4, being 8 AD converters but with just four of them having preamps in front of them. A compromise between cost and those who might need the converters just at line level (which I've seen at least once here). Jez Jez, no more likely to find a working XLR in the 'middle of nowhere' than a TA3. Probably find a cola can (empty), AA batteries (flat), AK47 bullet (casings), USB cable (broken) and maybe some goats: https://goo.gl/images/PyeiM4 The good thing about TA3/5 is they are almost as easy to solder as XLRs but considerably lighter and so easier to carry spares. XLRs would also have meant connectors on the 1 side of the unit (like the DNS2) which makes it harder to fit in a compact bag, imho. At least it's got T power tho... oh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
engaudio Report post #6 Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, IronFilm said: Any hints at price? Not cheap (expect around nzd$1500 but that's pure speculation.. ) , as a biased rx4+ owner it'll sound awesome and make your boom mics sound simply fantastic. I'm very impressed with the quality of my mkh50/dpa4017 through the rx4+ preamps so far, what's more I'm often asked by long term clients "what did I do?"... Grant. 16 hours ago, Mobilemike said: The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is not having any balanced analog outputs. Any chance of making that analog output a TA5 so that we can get balanced signals?o have but for me I will use analog much more often. As most of us are running cables 6inches or so into a mixer/recorder, unbalanced analogue isn't really an issue. But that's the theory.. Me, I'll be using AES. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janreijer Report post #7 Posted September 5, 2018 I would like to see a Dante connection in there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dolo72 Report post #8 Posted September 13, 2018 I would also like to see balanced outs, mainly because it would increase the potential market for Sonosax in a big way i.e. computer AD/DA for music. I would mainly be using AES out in the bag or on the cart with SXR4+ and the analogue for iem/possible mic pre for wireless boom or simple straight to camera jobs. It would be nice if the faders could be used as controllers in the SXR4+ but no biggie. Apart from that it looks great size/function and i know the mic amps are very very awesome already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dactylus Report post #9 Posted December 1, 2018 Do we have an update for the release date and pricing yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
engaudio Report post #10 Posted December 1, 2018 2 hours ago, dactylus said: Do we have an update for the release date and pricing yet? There was a mention of delivery at the end of the year or early next.. Best to follow Sonosax on FB for updates. https://www.facebook.com/sonosax/ or https://www.sonosax.ch/category/news/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dactylus Report post #11 Posted December 2, 2018 Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Lawrence Report post #12 Posted February 18 Any update on a potential release date? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincent R. Report post #13 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, David Lawrence said: Any update on a potential release date? Well they said about now: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronFilm Report post #14 Posted February 19 "Beginning" of 2019 is vague enough it might still be next month (or even the month after!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whippoorwill Report post #15 Posted February 20 I'd love to see this sooner rather than later... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Tresch Report post #16 Posted February 21 I do hope for June. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Tresch Report post #17 Posted March 16 (edited) A working prototype is going to be on display at AES Dublin. https://m.facebook.com/sonosax/photos/a.793234320768591/2112274115531265/?type=3 Edited March 18 by Patrick Tresch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Tresch Report post #18 Posted April 26 There are news from the M2D2 in this great report from Adorama at 20'05'' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismedr Report post #19 Posted April 27 thanks for the link. so it seems to use a 18650 type of battery - no mention of run time as far as I could see, but should be fairly long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Tresch Report post #20 Posted April 29 On 4/27/2019 at 12:38 PM, chrismedr said: thanks for the link. so it seems to use a 18650 type of battery - no mention of run time as far as I could see, but should be fairly long. With 2 mics fed with 48V phantom power, I’ve heard that the battery will last between 4 and 5 hours. Pat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismedr Report post #21 Posted September 15 not much new info, but a nice run down: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronFilm Report post #22 Posted September 15 On 9/5/2018 at 9:42 PM, engaudio said: Not cheap (expect around nzd$1500 but that's pure speculation.. ) , as a biased rx4+ owner it'll sound awesome and make your boom mics sound simply fantastic. I'm very impressed with the quality of my mkh50/dpa4017 through the rx4+ preamps so far, what's more I'm often asked by long term clients "what did I do?"... Based on the newsshooter video it seems the pricing will be closer to NZ$2K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mobilemike Report post #23 Posted September 16 The email I got from Sonosax last week said the SX-M2D2 was CHF 1190, so about $1200 in the USA. -Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramallo Report post #24 Posted September 16 Today from IBC (Is so tiny) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Tresch Report post #25 Posted October 8 Using the Iphone8 as recorder with TW Recorder (96khz and monitor flip enabled App). Hope Tentacle will come out with an upgraded App. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites