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Seems pretty slick if you ask me.  I know there have been countless attempts at antennas for bags discussed here over the years but this seems to be the first commercially available setup that seems easy to deploy and not a DIY attempt.  I noticed Gotham Sound added it to their inventory so hopefully they'll do a video about it.

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Just saw that email too. These look awesome. I haven’t gotten into the world of antennas yet - rarely needed anything more than whips - but these might just make me make the leap. 
 

-Mike

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1 hour ago, stacysound said:

Since it's omni directional, I think I would prefer to "lay it" on the front of the bag.

 

That'd be better for holding snacks.

 

Yes, it does look cool. I wonder how performance compares to a Lectrosonics SNA600 dipole.

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28 minutes ago, daniel said:

Quite like the coloured faders - DIY or a source you can share?

 

A guy named Simon in Montreal - pm me for contact info.  He also does great receiver cages, coloured cables/caps etc

 

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2 hours ago, codyman said:

How's the performance been on them?

 

Not enough of dynamic range of situations yet to be able to make definitive statements.  So far, in terms of range on my SRbs (with SMQV txs), about halfway between my SNA600a dipoles and the little whips.  Most valuable to me is just have a portable solution but getting those antenna out of the inside of the bag, which reaps all sorts of consistency benefits when using SRbs in switch mode.  I like that the bowties came not only with really good mounting clamps, but quality BNC-BNC and BNC-SMA cables.

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I’ve used mine recently for a basketball game doc. They are much easier to attach to the bag than the SNA. The provided hardware is a nice accessory and the cables have a good build quality to them. Performance wise they seem to be a little better at reception than the SNA. I also like the one piece design, I am forever losing the little adjuster screws for the various block settings for the SNA. The Betsos seem to stick out of the bag a little farther, so you have to pay a little more attention when walking through a crowded area. I think they are worth the money.

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one big advantage is, bowtie is using multiple wavelength, so if you are using wider range of frequencies (ie wisycom) it will be better than sna600. 

 

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1 hour ago, vitekcz said:

one big advantage is, bowtie is using multiple wavelength, so if you are using wider range of frequencies (ie wisycom) it will be better than sna600. 

 


it will be better, because it can receive all those frequencies without adjustments, but the filtering will be a lot worse. So that could impair reception quality 

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On 2/12/2020 at 11:16 AM, Mack said:

Following.   Can the SNA be modified to use the Betso bag adapter?

Yes you need to get a 1/4 20 reducer  the clamp and arm are all available on amazon from  smallrig. I think I got the reducer from B&H 3/8 to 1/4-20 

 

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I have now tried the bowtie on various situations; all-in-all i`m not very happy. I have Audio ltd A10 in my bag for boom and 6 Wisycom tx. 8 tracks for my basic setup. All rx goes to sma rf multi. On "light" bag work i have used two wisycom whips that covers all tx with great range - on cart i have the wisycom passive sharkfins. The bowtie just doest match up with either my bag or cart setup in range. On the bag; the standard wide-band whips does cover my system to a much better degree and on my cart the wisy-sharkfins is still the total winner of covering for range. I was tempted when buying, but sorry to say; dosent work for me. Will get rid of them.

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On 5/27/2020 at 8:58 AM, VIndlyd said:

I have now tried the bowtie on various situations; all-in-all i`m not very happy. I have Audio ltd A10 in my bag for boom and 6 Wisycom tx. 8 tracks for my basic setup. All rx goes to sma rf multi. On "light" bag work i have used two wisycom whips that covers all tx with great range - on cart i have the wisycom passive sharkfins. The bowtie just doest match up with either my bag or cart setup in range. On the bag; the standard wide-band whips does cover my system to a much better degree and on my cart the wisy-sharkfins is still the total winner of covering for range. I was tempted when buying, but sorry to say; dosent work for me. Will get rid of them.

 

Hello VIndlyd,

can I ask you to send me photo of your rig? Do you use BOWTIEs in the right polarization and orientation? What frequency do you use? Sorry to ask, but almost all customers are very happy with them and give us good feedbacks. Or maybe isn't one of them faulty?

Of course, as a main antennas for the cart is better to use SHARKIE style antennas. Their gain is better and directivity as well.

We would like to make you happy, so waiting for your response.

Kind regards,

Jan Zastera
BETSO

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I used the Betso Bowtie for my first time in a very crowded RF environment a couple weeks ago.

 

Another mixer picked a frequency we could share. During live TV I received the talent signal just fine, while the other mixer was getting serious dropouts with standard 'Lectro whips, mounted on the receiver, at the same distance. I picked a new frequency to solve the problem for the rest of the shoot.

 

I found the Bowtie easy to deploy and easy to stow on my bag when not in use. I can also see how to mount the SNA 600a using the same hardware. I hope, one afternoon fairly soon, I'll get around to testing the SNA vs Bowtie vs whips here in my RF quiet neighborhood.

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12 hours ago, Tim Norris said:

I used the Betso Bowtie for my first time in a very crowded RF environment a couple weeks ago.

 

Another mixer picked a frequency we could share. During live TV I received the talent signal just fine, while the other mixer was getting serious dropouts with standard 'Lectro whips, mounted on the receiver, at the same distance. I picked a new frequency to solve the problem for the rest of the shoot.

 

I found the Bowtie easy to deploy and easy to stow on my bag when not in use. I can also see how to mount the SNA 600a using the same hardware. I hope, one afternoon fairly soon, I'll get around to testing the SNA vs Bowtie vs whips here in my RF quiet neighborhood.

 

Hello Tim,


thank you for your feedback and using of our products!

If you need anything, feel free to contact us anytime.

 

Kind regards,

 

Jan Zastera
BETSO

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