JonG Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I don't know about you guys, but reading all of these forums is making me ill because of the horrible spelling and grammar that is being posted. I don't know if it is an influx of non English speaking people or the auto correct (and lack of QC) on their smart devices, but either way it is surprising that so few people proof read their posts before they post them. Ok I have said my piece, I won't bum you out any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jozzafunk Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 They're all on phones in darkened rooms between shots... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Sorry. It's not my native language. I went only two years in English class when I was 13-15 years old. But I'm trying to write correct. (don't ask for spelling only the Jan, Eric and Jeff know, hahaha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Sorry. It's not my native language. I went only two years in English class when I was 13-15 years old. But I'm trying to write correct. (don't ask for spelling only the Jan, Eric and Jeff know, hahaha) Me too ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campion Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ok while the topic is up.. the common one that I find annoying is 'then'/'than'.. I think its because in the american accent the words sound quite similar. Vasileios, you are excused I'm sure Jon is referring to the Native English speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Imagine how the English on here feel, when their language is mangled on an hourly basis..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Gandy Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yeah, non native English speakers can be excused, although I know plenty who use better grammar than a lot of native English speakers. Nothing on the face of the entire planet Earth can get me riled up as much as poor grammar. Sometimes I really begin to doubt that schools actually teach English any more, and I didn't even leave that long ago. Poor spelling is at least excusable, because plenty of words aren't pronounced phonetically and have far from logical spellings, but misuse of grammar literally changes the meaning of the sentence, and yet it's so simple to understand and so easy to implement. The whole your/you're thing annoys me to no limit. Your gay. What about my gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Udder bowl lox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Hermans Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Sorry. It's not my native language. For me,to obviously it still works, that different people from different countries all over the World, can communicate with each other and solve problems or help each other. I never thought that grammar is a real heavy problem! If yes, I wouldn´t write anything, cause i know that my english is not the best. sorry for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Boisvert Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 A topic worth revisiting once a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Sorry. It's not my native language. I went only two years in English class when I was 13-15 years old. But I'm trying to write correct. (don't ask for spelling only the Jan, Eric and Jeff know, hahaha) You only studied English for 2 years? I'm impressed at how well you know it! I think I studied French twice as long and I couldn't order lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 You only studied English for 2 years? I'm impressed at how well you know it! I think I studied French twice as long and I couldn't order lunch. With a little help now from Google translate for unknown words. Basically I can understand everything in the writings and speech. Of course that help me because I have educated the audio in English terminology. Now I have started to watch movies without subtitles so thank all of you for the quality of sound. Reading, searching, hearing everything in English everyday help me a lot. The best practice to learn a language is to live in a country with different language; like France. You are in under pressure, because the communication between human and human is the A & Q. - JonG : Don't worry about native language false in grammar. That happened and here. We speaking and writing Greek but not with the correct route. "Everyday language" it's different from "academical language" (from official books etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RPSharman Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yikes!! I excuse any English-as-a-second-language participants. The inexcusable misuses, in my opinion, are "there" instead of "they're" and "then" instead of "than". Neither should be attributed to auto-correct, especially since (I'll add "sense" to the list) the word "you're" is auto-corrected to include the apostrophe, provided you add the 'e' at the end of the word. In spoken American/English, I'll add "supposebly" - "libary" - "jewlery" - "irregardless" - "expresso" as major contributors to the decline of "properly" spoken English. I try quite hard to make sure my grammar and spelling is correct, often editing posts here and on Facebook to correct mistakes I notice after the fact. What I find surprising is who on this board often misuses "there" vs. "they're". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Personally I could care less how it is spelled or spoken, it's the thought or sentiment that counts. This might be because grammar n spelling are not easy for me to master or maybe I'm just lazy, who knows? CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 This, and other forums, are textual versions of water coolers and bars. So grammar and spelling here doesn't matter a whole lot to me. I'd rather read accurate spelling and good grammar. But clarity, insight, attitude and other stuff matters more. I write this as someone who spent many years editing magazines and books...and who still makes a significant percentage of GPP from writing. If you want writerly craft from me, then pay my rate. It's cool if others feel differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I will admit that I am one of those who always strives to write as clearly as I speak, trying my best to adhere to commonly accepted rules of grammar, punctuation and spelling. I would never, ever, criticize any of our members for whom English is a second language and I am grateful and appreciative of their contributions on this site. I agree with Crew that it is the meaning, the thought and the sentiment conveyed that is most important. I will add that I do spend quite a lot of time as part of my moderation on this site, correcting spelling and in some cases grammar, for those posts that need it. The ones that need this attention, I believe, are the ones where meaning and intent could easily be mis-construed just on the basis of spelling errors or grammatical mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 "Could of" is funny because it sounds sort of like it came from Scottish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm still annoyed by the misuse of "their," "there," and "they're." Makes me crazy. But I get that people are just shooting from the hip, writing without the benefit of a second draft or a spellchecker, sometimes using a cellphone, or a tablet, or just typing wildly without necessarily thinking. Crap happens. It's one thing to have bad grammar and spelling on an internet forum, but I really get angry when I see CNN or some other paid-for website where reporters and (supposedly) experienced staff writers have substandard grammar, spelling, and syntax. No excuse for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I don't know if it is an influx of non English speaking people or the auto correct (and lack of QC) on their smart devices.... It is in fact "an influx of non English speaking people", it's just that those people are born and bred US citizens. I think it's ironically delicious that the ubiquitous use of auto-correct (digital technology being a classic example of a symbolic order) is responsible for so much symbol-mangling. Even better when the symbolic order tries to help out via "frequent usage": "Hey Bob, whats the name of that guy that cleans your swimming porn?" best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campion Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 "Could of" is funny because it sounds sort of like it came from Scottish Haha yeah I seem to see that more often than "could've". Maybe our language is changing and there's nothing we can do about it. It happened with 'aluminium' and 'colour' when the americans thought they'd have a crack at English, now its the Internets turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Συγνώμη ... καμία εγγύηση! για τον υπολογιστή Vasileios Everything is good here. όταν ο επεξεργαστής αρχίζει να καπνίζουν. ? Now we have a problem here. Hahahaha.. But I get what you mean. Thanks Jim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Maloney Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 This does not bother me as much as on set when someone speaks to me as " hey you, dude , man , bro" I stop right there And straighten it out, " I am not your bro,dude,man" I am either Tom or Mr. Maloney to you OK ?" Funny part is most most of the young ones go with Mr. Just to be funny or sarcastic but it sticks. It's not a respect thing to me it's common courtesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 When you don't win you lose. Not loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blas Kisic Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 It is in fact "an influx of non English speaking people", it's just that those people are born and bred US citizens. I think it's ironically delicious that the ubiquitous use of auto-correct (digital technology being a classic example of a symbolic order) is responsible for so much symbol-mangling. Even better when the symbolic order tries to help out via "frequent usage": "Hey Bob, whats the name of that guy that cleans your swimming porn?" best I can tell you, having belonged to a number of boards and fora for the last 15 years, that it's usually the furriners who end up correcting the domestic types. So, no, I don't think it's any influx or anything like that. There's just a basic and gradual worsening of standards, at least when it comes to spelling and grammar. BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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